We are soon to begin a large household health survey and are deciding
which versions of Collect/Aggregate to start with. I'd appreciate some
comments on the following questions:
Aggregate 0.96: I set up our Aggregate instance using my Google
account. I can view data submitted by another user but cannot delete
his form. As the administrator I need overall access to forms and
data.
Aggregate v 1.0 rev. 3: It seems that it is not possible to delete
individual submissions of data. For So, when we pilot our survey and
submit data, we'll have to delete them and the form and re-export the
blank form to Aggregate in order to start afresh on the live survey,
right? Are there plans to add this facility (delete submissions)
later? What if a completed form is submitted with errors (I know it
shouldn't happen, but it could)?
We ave been unsuccessful in making the group function work (latest
Collect and Aggregate). The form seems to crash, especially when a
question inside a group has a relevance expression that refers to a
question outside. I posted an example on 02 Aug: http://dpaste.com/588809/.
Can anyone can tell me what is wrong with this form? I've ended up
having to repeat several groups of questions multiple times, making
the form large and clunky.
In regards to your Aggregate delete submissions questions, the plan is
to add deletion of individual submissions to the beta 4 release. As a
warning while we are working to stabilize the beta version Aggregate
to move Aggregate out of beta and into release candidate status we
don't focus on ease of updatability.
Waylon
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Glyn Alcock wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We are soon to begin a large household health survey and are deciding
> which versions of Collect/Aggregate to start with. I'd appreciate some
> comments on the following questions:
>
> Aggregate 0.96: I set up our Aggregate instance using my Google
> account. I can view data submitted by another user but cannot delete
> his form. As the administrator I need overall access to forms and
> data.
> Aggregate v 1.0 rev. 3: It seems that it is not possible to delete
> individual submissions of data. For So, when we pilot our survey and
> submit data, we'll have to delete them and the form and re-export the
> blank form to Aggregate in order to start afresh on the live survey,
> right? Are there plans to add this facility (delete submissions)
> later? What if a completed form is submitted with errors (I know it
> shouldn't happen, but it could)?
>
> We ave been unsuccessful in making the group function work (latest
> Collect and Aggregate). The form seems to crash, especially when a
> question inside a group has a relevance expression that refers to a
> question outside. I posted an example on 02 Aug: http://dpaste.com/588809/.
> Can anyone can tell me what is wrong with this form? I've ended up
> having to repeat several groups of questions multiple times, making
> the form large and clunky.
>
> Many thanks,
> Glyn
>
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the link you sent is no longer active. can you file a bug with your
issue and attach the form? please put the exact versions you are
having problems with in the issue.
yaw
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On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 22:37, Glyn Alcock wrote:
> We ave been unsuccessful in making the group function work (latest
> Collect and Aggregate). The form seems to crash, especially when a
> question inside a group has a relevance expression that refers to a
> question outside. I posted an example on 02 Aug: http://dpaste.com/588809/.
> Can anyone can tell me what is wrong with this form? I've ended up
> having to repeat several groups of questions multiple times, making
> the form large and clunky.
We should also add that our intention has always been that Aggregate
be a data store "of record" and should NOT be thought of as a
database to manage. You should route the data to another DB, eg.
FusionTables that supports the editing and modification of data. I
hope you can understand that it is important to have a complete record
of ALL submissions as they came in.
Gaetano
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On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:30 AM, W. Brunette wrote:
> In regards to your Aggregate delete submissions questions, the plan is
> to add deletion of individual submissions to the beta 4 release. As a
> warning while we are working to stabilize the beta version Aggregate
> to move Aggregate out of beta and into release candidate status we
> don't focus on ease of updatability.
>
> Waylon
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Glyn Alcock wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We are soon to begin a large household health survey and are deciding
>> which versions of Collect/Aggregate to start with. I'd appreciate some
>> comments on the following questions:
>>
>> Aggregate 0.96: I set up our Aggregate instance using my Google
>> account. I can view data submitted by another user but cannot delete
>> his form. As the administrator I need overall access to forms and
>> data.
>> Aggregate v 1.0 rev. 3: It seems that it is not possible to delete
>> individual submissions of data. For So, when we pilot our survey and
>> submit data, we'll have to delete them and the form and re-export the
>> blank form to Aggregate in order to start afresh on the live survey,
>> right? Are there plans to add this facility (delete submissions)
>> later? What if a completed form is submitted with errors (I know it
>> shouldn't happen, but it could)?
>>
>> We ave been unsuccessful in making the group function work (latest
>> Collect and Aggregate). The form seems to crash, especially when a
>> question inside a group has a relevance expression that refers to a
>> question outside. I posted an example on 02 Aug: http://dpaste.com/588809/.
>> Can anyone can tell me what is wrong with this form? I've ended up
>> having to repeat several groups of questions multiple times, making
>> the form large and clunky.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Glyn
>>
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>>
>
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I've reposted an example form where the group function seems to fail
when using relevance expressions within a group (at least that's what
I think the problem is): http://dpaste.com/602440/.
I'm using Collect 1.1.7. I'd appreciate it if you could have a look
for me.
Just want to thank you and others for your help and advice over the
past couple of months. Although the group problem has meant that our
form is big and clunky, it works perfectly and, with the help of a
nice postgrad from MIT (and several hours studying XML of our forms)
we've done some pretty good stuff. We're currently training our
fieldworkers and we're very happy and grateful to have had ODK to work
with.
Thanks very much,
Glyn
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On Aug 22, 4:02 am, Yaw Anokwa wrote:
> glyn,
>
> the link you sent is no longer active. can you file a bug with your
> issue and attach the form? please put the exact versions you are
> having problems with in the issue.
>
> yawOn Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 22:37, Glyn Alcock wrote:
> > We ave been unsuccessful in making the group function work (latest
> > Collect and Aggregate). The form seems to crash, especially when a
> > question inside a group has a relevance expression that refers to a
> > question outside. I posted an example on 02 Aug:http://dpaste.com/588809/.
> > Can anyone can tell me what is wrong with this form? I've ended up
> > having to repeat several groups of questions multiple times, making
> > the form large and clunky.
some of your relevancy was buggy. for example, "/data/husage" should point
to "/data/husinfo/husage". also your groups were marked as repeats which i'm
assuming you didn't want (unless you are expecting a polygamous
population). you can find the fixed form at http://dpaste.com/602608/.
yaw
ps. you are welcome. pay it forward
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:31, Glyn Alcock wrote:
Hi Yaw,
I've reposted an example form where the group function seems to fail
when using relevance expressions within a group (at least that's what
I think the problem is): http://dpaste.com/602440/.
I'm using Collect 1.1.7. I'd appreciate it if you could have a look
for me.
Just want to thank you and others for your help and advice over the
past couple of months. Although the group problem has meant that our
form is big and clunky, it works perfectly and, with the help of a
nice postgrad from MIT (and several hours studying XML of our forms)
we've done some pretty good stuff. We're currently training our
fieldworkers and we're very happy and grateful to have had ODK to work
with.
the link you sent is no longer active. can you file a bug with your
issue and attach the form? please put the exact versions you are
having problems with in the issue.
We ave been unsuccessful in making the group function work (latest
Collect and Aggregate). The form seems to crash, especially when a
question inside a group has a relevance expression that refers to a
question outside. I posted an example on 02 Aug: http://dpaste.com/588809/.
Can anyone can tell me what is wrong with this form? I've ended up
having to repeat several groups of questions multiple times, making
the form large and clunky.
I can see what my mistake was. The form I posted was just a dummy to
show the error I was getting. Our actual survey includes repeated
questions about household members (5 each for men and women; 8 each
for boys and girls), so they would be looped, but, no, we are not
looking at polygamy!
Regards,
Glyn
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On Aug 25, 10:36 pm, Yaw Anokwa wrote:
> glyn,
>
> some of your relevancy was buggy. for example, "/data/husage" should point
> to "/data/husinfo/husage". also your groups were marked as repeats which i'm
> assuming you didn't want (unless you are expecting a polygamous
> population). you can find the fixed form athttp://dpaste.com/602608/.
>
> yaw
>
> ps. you are welcome. pay it forward :)On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:31, Glyn Alcock wrote:
> > Hi Yaw,
>
> > I've reposted an example form where the group function seems to fail
> > when using relevance expressions within a group (at least that's what
> > I think the problem is):http://dpaste.com/602440/.
>
> > I'm using Collect 1.1.7. I'd appreciate it if you could have a look
> > for me.
>
> > Just want to thank you and others for your help and advice over the
> > past couple of months. Although the group problem has meant that our
> > form is big and clunky, it works perfectly and, with the help of a
> > nice postgrad from MIT (and several hours studying XML of our forms)
> > we've done some pretty good stuff. We're currently training our
> > fieldworkers and we're very happy and grateful to have had ODK to work
> > with.
>
> > Thanks very much,
> > Glyn
>
> > On Aug 22, 4:02 am, Yaw Anokwa wrote:
> > > glyn,
>
> > > the link you sent is no longer active. can you file a bug with your
> > > issue and attach the form? please put the exact versions you are
> > > having problems with in the issue.
>
> > > yawOn Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 22:37, Glyn Alcock
> > wrote:
> > > > We ave been unsuccessful in making the group function work (latest
> > > > Collect and Aggregate). The form seems to crash, especially when a
> > > > question inside a group has a relevance expression that refers to a
> > > > question outside. I posted an example on 02 Aug:
> >http://dpaste.com/588809/.
> > > > Can anyone can tell me what is wrong with this form? I've ended up
> > > > having to repeat several groups of questions multiple times, making
> > > > the form large and clunky.
>
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