Hello All,
There is a potential project which would want to collect household data
(baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have occured
within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits, the
tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the head
of house is, number of household members, details of each household member.
This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator arriving
there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see very
little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for opendatakit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4 shows that ODK
Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could use ODK
Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards formal
support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to have
especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group year
on year
After going through multiple prototypes ODK tables is currently in the
process of switching to being supported by the core ODK team. It will
likely be supported sometime this summer, no eta beyond "sometime this
summer". (FYI, we consider September part of summer). Until we put a
release out there is no support available from the core team as we
have some clean up and expansion we want to do.
Waylon
···
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tumaini Kilimba wrote:
> Hello All,
> There is a potential project which would want to collect household data
> (baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have occured
> within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits, the
> tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the head
> of house is, number of household members, details of each household member.
> This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator arriving
> there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
> providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see very
> little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for
> opendatakit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4 shows
> that ODK Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could use
> ODK Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards
> formal support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to have
> especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group year on
> year
>
> Thanks,
> Tumaini
>
> --
> Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com
> Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en
Looking for the same materials because i need to use it. Did you had any
luck?
···
On Thursday, June 28, 2012 at 1:18:05 PM UTC+3, Tumaini Kilimba wrote:
>
> Hello All,
> There is a potential project which would want to collect household data
> (baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have occured
> within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits, the
> tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the head
> of house is, number of household members, details of each household member.
> This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator arriving
> there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
> providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see very
> little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for opendatakit
> http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4 shows that ODK
> Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could use ODK
> Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards formal
> support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to have
> especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group year
> on year
>
> Thanks,
> Tumaini
>
Thanks Waylon. Well in light of the fact that there will be support in the
near future, what id the best way of getting acclimatised to what odk
tables has to offer now, while we wait for its official launch?
Thanks
···
On 28 Jun 2012 18:10, "W. Brunette" wrote:
Tumaini,
After going through multiple prototypes ODK tables is currently in the
process of switching to being supported by the core ODK team. It will
likely be supported sometime this summer, no eta beyond "sometime this
summer". (FYI, we consider September part of summer). Until we put a
release out there is no support available from the core team as we
have some clean up and expansion we want to do.
Waylon
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tumaini Kilimba tkilimba@ihi.or.tz wrote:
Hello All,
There is a potential project which would want to collect household data
(baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have occured
within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits, the
tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the
head
of house is, number of household members, details of each household
member.
This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator arriving
there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see
very
little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for
opendatakit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4
shows
that ODK Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could use
ODK Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards
formal support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to
have
especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group
year on
year
Hello Waylon,
I was wondering if there is any update on the status of ODK Tables? Can you
advise me on how to proceed if I want to get a head start with ODK Tables
while awaiting for final official supported release?
Thanks in advance,
Tumaini
···
On Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:10:50 PM UTC+3, Waylon Brunette wrote:
Tumaini,
After going through multiple prototypes ODK tables is currently in the
process of switching to being supported by the core ODK team. It will
likely be supported sometime this summer, no eta beyond "sometime this
summer". (FYI, we consider September part of summer). Until we put a
release out there is no support available from the core team as we
have some clean up and expansion we want to do.
Waylon
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tumaini Kilimba <tkil...@ihi.or.tz<javascript:>> wrote:
Hello All,
There is a potential project which would want to collect household data
(baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have
occured
within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits, the
tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the
head
of house is, number of household members, details of each household
member.
This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator
arriving
there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see
very
little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for
opendatakit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4 shows
that ODK Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could
use
ODK Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards
formal support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to
have
especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group
year on
year
Hello Gaetano,
Is there an ETA on the alpha release of ODK Tables yet?
Thanks,
TUmaini
···
On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:31:14 PM UTC+3, Gaetano Borriello wrote:
>
> Getting close. It won't solve every issue, however. Not to mention
> creating more.
> We plan on an alpha release this month with a beta early next year.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM, <pate...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> ODK Tables looks to be a tremendous application when it is released. I
>> wanted to know what the status of this initiative is.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Milan Patel
>>
>> --
>> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com
>> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com
>> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en
>>
>
>
···
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:17 PM, cyrus karoki wrote:
Looking for the same materials because i need to use it. Did you had any
luck?
On Thursday, June 28, 2012 at 1:18:05 PM UTC+3, Tumaini Kilimba wrote:
Hello All,
There is a potential project which would want to collect household data
(baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have occured
within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits, the
tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the head
of house is, number of household members, details of each household member.
This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator arriving
there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see very
little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for opendatakit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4 shows that ODK
Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could use ODK
Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards formal
support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to have
especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group year
on year
In the process of preparing a release some features will be added will
others will be removed so we have not created much documentation yet.
An historical document is available from about a year ago but a lot
has changed since then.
···
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Tumaini Kilimba wrote:
> Thanks Waylon. Well in light of the fact that there will be support in the
> near future, what id the best way of getting acclimatised to what odk tables
> has to offer now, while we wait for its official launch?
>
> Thanks
>
> On 28 Jun 2012 18:10, "W. Brunette" wrote:
>>
>> Tumaini,
>>
>> After going through multiple prototypes ODK tables is currently in the
>> process of switching to being supported by the core ODK team. It will
>> likely be supported sometime this summer, no eta beyond "sometime this
>> summer". (FYI, we consider September part of summer). Until we put a
>> release out there is no support available from the core team as we
>> have some clean up and expansion we want to do.
>>
>> Waylon
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tumaini Kilimba wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> > There is a potential project which would want to collect household data
>> > (baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have
>> > occured
>> > within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits, the
>> > tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the
>> > head
>> > of house is, number of household members, details of each household
>> > member.
>> > This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator
>> > arriving
>> > there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
>> > providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see
>> > very
>> > little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for
>> >
>> > opendatakit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4 shows
>> > that ODK Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could
>> > use
>> > ODK Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards
>> > formal support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to
>> > have
>> > especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group
>> > year on
>> > year
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Tumaini
>> >
>> > --
>> > Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com
>> > Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
>> > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en
>>
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>
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I started an internal discussion yesterday on the topic after your initial
email and we do not have an answer yet.
Currently the core team is working on
Aggregate 1.3 production
Briefcase 1.3 production
Sensors 2.0 alpha
Tables 2.0 alpha
Collect 2.0 alpha
Aggregate 2.0 alpha
All of which are at various stages of development and depending on the use
case/functionality may depend on each other. When development slows down on
one of them or we stop to fix a bug/issue found in the community it affects
the time schedule of the others. Being that we are an academic team we had
a large conference paper deadline last Friday for ACM DEV (dev2013.org)
which many of us stopped development for a couple of weeks to prepare our
papers. We are back in full development mode this week and have begun
trying to put together an updated schedule with some releases targeted for
the end of September. I don't which tools will make the end of September
release target versus October release target.
Tables code is available online but we are in the middle of changing some
things so I don't think it's even stable enough so I would not recommend
getting a head start as we are changing things. We are working to get an
alpha out that interacts with the other tools so that people have something
to start playing with. We attempt to put an alpha and/or beta releases for
people to get a head start on before the official release. Unfortunately
because of an number of circumstances we are not there yet.
The ODK core team tries not to put anything out before it's ready because
we know our customers depend on it working and being stable. Unfortunately
we are a small team of a few people doing our best to add a lot of
functionality while keeping things stable for people which can be a
challenge as providing a supported stable toolset to people with lots of
use cases requires lots of time and dedication which my great team members.
Waylon
···
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Tumaini Kilimba wrote:
Hello Waylon,
I was wondering if there is any update on the status of ODK Tables? Can
you advise me on how to proceed if I want to get a head start with ODK
Tables while awaiting for final official supported release?
Thanks in advance,
Tumaini
On Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:10:50 PM UTC+3, Waylon Brunette wrote:
Tumaini,
After going through multiple prototypes ODK tables is currently in the
process of switching to being supported by the core ODK team. It will
likely be supported sometime this summer, no eta beyond "sometime this
summer". (FYI, we consider September part of summer). Until we put a
release out there is no support available from the core team as we
have some clean up and expansion we want to do.
Waylon
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tumaini Kilimba tkil...@ihi.or.tz wrote:
Hello All,
There is a potential project which would want to collect household data
(baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have
occured
within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits, the
tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the
head
of house is, number of household members, details of each household
member.
This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator
arriving
there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see
very
little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for
opendatakit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/
SourceTab?tm=4 http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4 shows
that ODK Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could
use
ODK Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards
formal support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to
have
especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group
year on
year
Software timelines are hard to estimate, and it's even harder for ODK
because the core team is responsible for much more than writing
software. Case in point, Gaetano (full time prof) and Waylon (full
time Ph.D. student) are currently out of country...
We are all frustrated by how long things take, and so I propose the
"it'll be done when it's done" rule as an new ETA. If you need to use
something in Tables, it's best to either use the source that is there
(not recommended) or find a more complete alternative (recommended).
Thanks for your patience and understanding,
Yaw
···
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Tumaini Kilimba wrote:
> Hello Gaetano,
> Is there an ETA on the alpha release of ODK Tables yet?
>
> Thanks,
> TUmaini
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:31:14 PM UTC+3, Gaetano Borriello wrote:
>>
>> Getting close. It won't solve every issue, however. Not to mention
>> creating more.
>> We plan on an alpha release this month with a beta early next year.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> ODK Tables looks to be a tremendous application when it is released. I
>>> wanted to know what the status of this initiative is.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Milan Patel
>>>
>>> --
>>> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com
>>> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com
>>> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en
>>
>>
> --
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Thanks Waylon for your informative response, I do appreciate how
challenging the workload must be, and as such, commend your whole team for
the sterling job so far!
I will eagerly await the alpha release to play around with, be it in
september or october.
···
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:50 PM, W. Brunette wrote:
Tumaini,
I started an internal discussion yesterday on the topic after your initial
email and we do not have an answer yet.
Currently the core team is working on
Aggregate 1.3 production
Briefcase 1.3 production
Sensors 2.0 alpha
Tables 2.0 alpha
Collect 2.0 alpha
Aggregate 2.0 alpha
All of which are at various stages of development and depending on the use
case/functionality may depend on each other. When development slows down on
one of them or we stop to fix a bug/issue found in the community it affects
the time schedule of the others. Being that we are an academic team we had
a large conference paper deadline last Friday for ACM DEV (dev2013.org)
which many of us stopped development for a couple of weeks to prepare our
papers. We are back in full development mode this week and have begun
trying to put together an updated schedule with some releases targeted for
the end of September. I don't which tools will make the end of September
release target versus October release target.
Tables code is available online but we are in the middle of changing some
things so I don't think it's even stable enough so I would not recommend
getting a head start as we are changing things. We are working to get an
alpha out that interacts with the other tools so that people have something
to start playing with. We attempt to put an alpha and/or beta releases for
people to get a head start on before the official release. Unfortunately
because of an number of circumstances we are not there yet.
The ODK core team tries not to put anything out before it's ready because
we know our customers depend on it working and being stable. Unfortunately
we are a small team of a few people doing our best to add a lot of
functionality while keeping things stable for people which can be a
challenge as providing a supported stable toolset to people with lots of
use cases requires lots of time and dedication which my great team members.
Waylon
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Tumaini Kilimba tkilimba@ihi.or.tzwrote:
Hello Waylon,
I was wondering if there is any update on the status of ODK Tables? Can
you advise me on how to proceed if I want to get a head start with ODK
Tables while awaiting for final official supported release?
Thanks in advance,
Tumaini
On Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:10:50 PM UTC+3, Waylon Brunette wrote:
Tumaini,
After going through multiple prototypes ODK tables is currently in the
process of switching to being supported by the core ODK team. It will
likely be supported sometime this summer, no eta beyond "sometime this
summer". (FYI, we consider September part of summer). Until we put a
release out there is no support available from the core team as we
have some clean up and expansion we want to do.
Waylon
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tumaini Kilimba tkil...@ihi.or.tz wrote:
Hello All,
There is a potential project which would want to collect household
data
(baseline) and then on subsequent visits, update events that have
occured
within the household. This would require that on subsequent visits,
the
tablet is armed with data pertaining to that household such as who the
head
of house is, number of household members, details of each household
member.
This info would need to be in the tablet prior to the enumerator
arriving
there. From the research I have done I think ODK Tables is capable of
providing this functionality (correct me if am wrong?). However I see
very
little information on ODK Tables, and the google page for
opendatakit http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/
SourceTab?tm=4http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/SourceTab?tm=4 shows
that ODK Tables is NOT supported. Can anyone advise me on how I could
use
ODK Tables, where I can get more info, ad if there is any push towards
formal support of it in the future, as it seems a very useful tool to
have
especially for longitudinal studies that visit the same cohort group
year on
year
You should plan on ODK Tables be unstable and pre-alpha until at least the
end of March.
There are two big integration steps, with ODK Aggregate and ODK Survey,
that must be accomplished (simultaneously) before it gets to alpha. As
those proceed, we'll be able to give better guidance on the release
timelines for ODK Tables.
Mitch
···
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Yaw Anokwa wrote:
Hi Tumaini,
Software timelines are hard to estimate, and it's even harder for ODK
because the core team is responsible for much more than writing
software. Case in point, Gaetano (full time prof) and Waylon (full
time Ph.D. student) are currently out of country...
We are all frustrated by how long things take, and so I propose the
"it'll be done when it's done" rule as an new ETA. If you need to use
something in Tables, it's best to either use the source that is there
(not recommended) or find a more complete alternative (recommended).
Thanks for your patience and understanding,
Yaw
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Tumaini Kilimba tkilimba@ihi.or.tz wrote:
Hello Gaetano,
Is there an ETA on the alpha release of ODK Tables yet?
Thanks,
TUmaini
On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:31:14 PM UTC+3, Gaetano Borriello wrote:
Getting close. It won't solve every issue, however. Not to mention
creating more.
We plan on an alpha release this month with a beta early next year.
While we cannot provide an accurate schedule I would guess the beta will be
the end of November (let me reiterate that is a guess), if we miss the end
of November it will likely be January.
Waylon
···
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM, wrote:
Thanks for the update and for all the hard work. Is there any update on a
possible beta of Tables?
I should add that our goal is by the end of the November to have all the
betas out for 2.0 and move to release candidates in January 2014. There are
so many unknown variables that we do not provide exact timetables. You will
hopefully see betas being released starting at the beginning of November. I
do not know which order the betas will be released in so I said the end of
November.
Let me reiterate that because of the unknowns, the amount of work needed on
the 1.x tool chain, upgrades, etc the very small ODK core team does NOT
guarantee dates.
Waylon
···
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:44 PM, W. Brunette wrote:
While we cannot provide an accurate schedule I would guess the beta will
be the end of November (let me reiterate that is a guess), if we miss the
end of November it will likely be January.
Hi Tumaini, did you succeed in implementing this project? How did you go
about tables? I have similar project and am just wondering how to approach
it especially on complex tables?
Collins
···
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM, W. Brunette wrote:
I should add that our goal is by the end of the November to have all the
betas out for 2.0 and move to release candidates in January 2014. There are
so many unknown variables that we do not provide exact timetables. You will
hopefully see betas being released starting at the beginning of November. I
do not know which order the betas will be released in so I said the end of
November.
Let me reiterate that because of the unknowns, the amount of work needed
on the 1.x tool chain, upgrades, etc the very small ODK core team does NOT
guarantee dates.
While we cannot provide an accurate schedule I would guess the beta will
be the end of November (let me reiterate that is a guess), if we miss the
end of November it will likely be January.
Thanks for all the hard work. A question-is there a newer version than rev 122 of ODK tables?
Thank you!
Steve
···
On Saturday, September 21, 2013 at 1:51:34 AM UTC-5, Waylon Brunette wrote:
> I should add that our goal is by the end of the November to have all the betas out for 2.0 and move to release candidates in January 2014. There are so many unknown variables that we do not provide exact timetables. You will hopefully see betas being released starting at the beginning of November. I do not know which order the betas will be released in so I said the end of November.
>
>
> Let me reiterate that because of the unknowns, the amount of work needed on the 1.x tool chain, upgrades, etc the very small ODK core team does NOT guarantee dates.
>
> Waylon
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:44 PM, W. Brunette wrote:
>
>
> While we cannot provide an accurate schedule I would guess the beta will be the end of November (let me reiterate that is a guess), if we miss the end of November it will likely be January.
>
> Waylon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM, wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the update and for all the hard work. Is there any update on a possible beta of Tables?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve
>
>
>
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>
>
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Hello Collins,
I, as well as some other developers in Switzerland and Tanzania created a
tool which is a hybrid of a Native Android/ODK Collect tool ( https://code.google.com/p/ihi-openhds/) and this is what we used instead to
collect longitudinal household data.
Hope this helps,
Tumaini
···
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Collins O. Adoyo wrote:
Hi Tumaini, did you succeed in implementing this project? How did you go
about tables? I have similar project and am just wondering how to approach
it especially on complex tables?
I should add that our goal is by the end of the November to have all the
betas out for 2.0 and move to release candidates in January 2014. There are
so many unknown variables that we do not provide exact timetables. You will
hopefully see betas being released starting at the beginning of November. I
do not know which order the betas will be released in so I said the end of
November.
Let me reiterate that because of the unknowns, the amount of work needed
on the 1.x tool chain, upgrades, etc the very small ODK core team does NOT
guarantee dates.
While we cannot provide an accurate schedule I would guess the beta will
be the end of November (let me reiterate that is a guess), if we miss the
end of November it will likely be January.