Reliable way of Backing Up data in remote areas

Hello,

I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish) part of
Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using formhub and
I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android smartphone. We
wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets we
plan to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the
filled out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are
able to upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase
or aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs.

I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this.

Thanks,
Kavita

if you have portable computers with you, you can use ODK Briefcase:
http://opendatakit.org/use/briefcase/‎

··· On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G wrote:

Hello,

I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish) part of
Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using formhub and
I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android smartphone. We
wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets we
plan to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the
filled out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are
able to upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase
or aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs.

I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this.

Thanks,
Kavita

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On comments about Briefcase and ODK saving to the SD card: Some phones do
not allow install of briefcase or ODK to the removable SD card
(specifically Sony Z Ultra and android 4.2 to .3)

I have used Oi File Manager to zip the 'instances' folder. Original records
remain in the instances folder with the addition of a compressed copy. It
is still on the same device which for all intents is not really a backup.
However, you could then move the zipped folder to the SD card using Oi.
Unfortunately the Oi zipped folder will not open in windows. It does show
the appropriate file size in properties though so I assume the data is
there.

I have had trouble getting all xml files to show in Oi and also in windows
file explorer when plugged into the computer. Some do, some don't. Nor will
the offending xml copy over to windows (I do not upload data). It is there
since I can recall the form and see the data. This can be a real concern. I
just finished 500km of roadside survey with 120 instances and was quite
worried when I could not see all xml's at the end of the day. However, I
have never lost any data. It is a file view problem.

The solution I found for direct data transfer is "my phone explorer" which
will transfer files across to windows without loss of the xml. So now I
take a small laptop in the field and download instances at the end of the
day via 'my phone explorer'.

··· On Saturday, 1 March 2014 05:45:22 UTC+10, Kavita G wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish) part of > Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using formhub and > I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android smartphone. We > wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets we > plan to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the > filled out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are > able to upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase > or aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs. > > I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this. > > Thanks, > Kavita >

I'm not sure that will work since we won't be bringing computers. Is there
any other way?

··· On Friday, February 28, 2014 8:21:39 PM UTC-5, ニコノコ wrote: > > > if you have portable computers with you, you can use ODK Briefcase: > http://opendatakit.org/use/briefcase/‎ > > > On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G <kga...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish) part of >> Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using formhub and >> I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android smartphone. We >> wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets we >> plan to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the >> filled out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are >> able to upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase >> or aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs. >> >> I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this. >> >> Thanks, >> Kavita >> >> -- >> -- >> Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ODK Community" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > -- > -- > Nik > Need help customizing Survey Instruments/Tools/Forms for ODK Collect? Drop > me an email. > >

In response to:
" I can't figure out how to ensure the filled out forms are saved on the SD
card and internal memory until we are able to upload to information after
we return."

Once you hit finalize or save as incomplete, ODK Collect saves the filled
out form to the SD card or internal memory. This is automatic, there is
nothing extra to do.

Waylon

··· On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Kavita G wrote:

I'm not sure that will work since we won't be bringing computers. Is there
any other way?

On Friday, February 28, 2014 8:21:39 PM UTC-5, ニコノコ wrote:

if you have portable computers with you, you can use ODK Briefcase:
http://opendatakit.org/use/briefcase/

On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G kga...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish) part
of Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using formhub
and I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android smartphone. We
wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets we
plan to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the
filled out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are
able to upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase
or aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs.

I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this.

Thanks,
Kavita

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If your devices support USB On The Go (OTG), you can store copies of your
data to external drives like pen drives.

··· On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G wrote:

I'm not sure that will work since we won't be bringing computers. Is there
any other way?

On Friday, February 28, 2014 8:21:39 PM UTC-5, ニコノコ wrote:

if you have portable computers with you, you can use ODK Briefcase:
http://opendatakit.org/use/briefcase/‎

On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G kga...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish) part
of Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using formhub
and I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android smartphone. We
wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets we
plan to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the
filled out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are
able to upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase
or aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs.

I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this.

Thanks,
Kavita

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Kavita,

ODK Collect saves the data to your device's /sdcard folder.

If your device has a removable SD card, Android will map /sdcard to
that card. If your device does not have a removable SD card, Android
will map /sdcard to a folder inside your internal memory.

If you have a removable SD card and the device breaks, you can remove
the card and get your data. If you don't have a removable SD card,
when the device breaks, you probably won't be able to get your data
back.

Samsung tends to do things in a non-standard way (e.g., it saves to
non-removable storage even if you have removable storage), so I
encourage you to test on your device to figure out where the data is
stored.

If you want back ups for your data, your options are to either upload
the data while in the field to a server (e.g., FormHub) or run ODK
Briefcase on a laptop that goes in the field with you. Nik's
suggestion is also a good one. Again, test before you go.

Yaw

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On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:01 AM, ゴー・ニコライ nikolai.go@gmail.com wrote:

If your devices support USB On The Go (OTG), you can store copies of your
data to external drives like pen drives.

On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G kgadani@gmail.com wrote:

I'm not sure that will work since we won't be bringing computers. Is there
any other way?

On Friday, February 28, 2014 8:21:39 PM UTC-5, ニコノコ wrote:

if you have portable computers with you, you can use ODK Briefcase:
http://opendatakit.org/use/briefcase/

On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G kga...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish) part
of Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using formhub
and I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android smartphone. We
wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets we plan
to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the filled
out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are able to
upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase or
aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs.

I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this.

Thanks,
Kavita

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Thank you for all your help!

Quick question, how will I figure out where the data are being stored on
the samsung devices? is there a path name i should look for? do i need any
special app to look into the hard drive by folders?

··· On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:34:17 PM UTC-5, Yaw Anokwa wrote: > > Kavita, > > ODK Collect saves the data to your device's /sdcard folder. > > If your device has a removable SD card, Android will map /sdcard to > that card. If your device does not have a removable SD card, Android > will map /sdcard to a folder inside your internal memory. > > If you have a removable SD card and the device breaks, you can remove > the card and get your data. If you don't have a removable SD card, > when the device breaks, you probably won't be able to get your data > back. > > Samsung tends to do things in a non-standard way (e.g., it saves to > non-removable storage even if you have removable storage), so I > encourage you to test on your device to figure out where the data is > stored. > > If you want back ups for your data, your options are to either upload > the data while in the field to a server (e.g., FormHub) or run ODK > Briefcase on a laptop that goes in the field with you. Nik's > suggestion is also a good one. Again, test before you go. > > Yaw > -- > Need ODK services? http://nafundi.com provides form design, server > setup, professional support, and software development for ODK. > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:01 AM, ゴー・ニコライ <nikol...@gmail.com > wrote: > > If your devices support USB On The Go (OTG), you can store copies of > your > > data to external drives like pen drives. > > > > > > On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G <kga...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> > >> I'm not sure that will work since we won't be bringing computers. Is > there > >> any other way? > >> > >> On Friday, February 28, 2014 8:21:39 PM UTC-5, ニコノコ wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> if you have portable computers with you, you can use ODK Briefcase: > >>> http://opendatakit.org/use/briefcase/ > >>> > >>> > >>> On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish) > part > >>>> of Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using > formhub > >>>> and I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android > smartphone. We > >>>> wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets > we plan > >>>> to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the > filled > >>>> out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are > able to > >>>> upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase or > >>>> aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs. > >>>> > >>>> I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Kavita > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> -- > >>>> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com > >>>> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com > >>>> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en > >>>> > >>>> --- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "ODK Community" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >>>> an email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com . > >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> -- > >>> Nik > >>> Need help customizing Survey Instruments/Tools/Forms for ODK Collect? > >>> Drop me an email. > >>> > >> -- > >> -- > >> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com > >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com > >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en > >> > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "ODK Community" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com . > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Nik > > Need help customizing Survey Instruments/Tools/Forms for ODK Collect? > Drop > > me an email. > > > > -- > > -- > > Post: opend...@googlegroups.com > > Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com > > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "ODK Community" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >

Kavita,

Easiest way is to eject the SD card. Then connect it to a USB reader
attached to your computer and see if there is an /odk folder.

Yaw

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On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Kavita G kgadani@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you for all your help!

Quick question, how will I figure out where the data are being stored on the
samsung devices? is there a path name i should look for? do i need any
special app to look into the hard drive by folders?

On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:34:17 PM UTC-5, Yaw Anokwa wrote:

Kavita,

ODK Collect saves the data to your device's /sdcard folder.

If your device has a removable SD card, Android will map /sdcard to
that card. If your device does not have a removable SD card, Android
will map /sdcard to a folder inside your internal memory.

If you have a removable SD card and the device breaks, you can remove
the card and get your data. If you don't have a removable SD card,
when the device breaks, you probably won't be able to get your data
back.

Samsung tends to do things in a non-standard way (e.g., it saves to
non-removable storage even if you have removable storage), so I
encourage you to test on your device to figure out where the data is
stored.

If you want back ups for your data, your options are to either upload
the data while in the field to a server (e.g., FormHub) or run ODK
Briefcase on a laptop that goes in the field with you. Nik's
suggestion is also a good one. Again, test before you go.

Yaw

Need ODK services? http://nafundi.com provides form design, server
setup, professional support, and software development for ODK.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:01 AM, ゴー・ニコライ nikol...@gmail.com wrote:

If your devices support USB On The Go (OTG), you can store copies of
your
data to external drives like pen drives.

On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G kga...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm not sure that will work since we won't be bringing computers. Is
there
any other way?

On Friday, February 28, 2014 8:21:39 PM UTC-5, ニコノコ wrote:

if you have portable computers with you, you can use ODK Briefcase:
http://opendatakit.org/use/briefcase/

On Saturday, March 1, 2014, Kavita G kga...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I'm a masters student who is headed with a group to a remote(ish)
part
of Haiti to conduct a water assessment. We created a survey using
formhub
and I've been able to get ODK collect working on my android
smartphone. We
wanted to make sure that our data would be saved even if the tablets
we plan
to take with us were to break. I can't figure out how to ensure the
filled
out forms are saved on the SD card and internal memory until we are
able to
upload to information after we return. Would I need odk briefcase or
aggregate? We will be using Samsung galaxy tabs.

I appreciate any help as I'm very new to this.

Thanks,
Kavita

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