Some assistance with ODK build

To whom it may concern,

We have taken an interest in ODK and are considering making use of it for
an upcoming survey. I have a few questions, maybe you can point me in the
right direction.

Is it currently possible to gather data from several respondents then later
(on the same questionnaire), retrieve the gathered data from the different
respondents in order to apply more information?

I hope I am being clear, what we want to do is gather details of 2/3 people
in the household, then once we have done so, go back to each gathered
member, that meets a certain criteria and obtain more information, based on
their gender or age groups for example.

Looking forward to your kind feedback.

Sincere Regards,

Asen Mwandemele

Not without additional software. Commcare and ODK Clinic are examples of
apps that wrap the core ODK Collect to accomplish what you seek.

The ODK 2.0 tool suite (ODK Survey + ODK Tables, plus new functionality in
ODK Aggregate) will support this use case, but ODK Tables will not be in
public Alpha anytime soon, and you should never use Alpha releases for
anything other than pilot field studies where you are comfortable with loss
of potentially all your data.

Mitch

··· On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Asen wrote:

To whom it may concern,

We have taken an interest in ODK and are considering making use of it for
an upcoming survey. I have a few questions, maybe you can point me in the
right direction.

Is it currently possible to gather data from several respondents then
later (on the same questionnaire), retrieve the gathered data from the
different respondents in order to apply more information?

I hope I am being clear, what we want to do is gather details of 2/3
people in the household, then once we have done so, go back to each
gathered member, that meets a certain criteria and obtain more information,
based on their gender or age groups for example.

Looking forward to your kind feedback.

Sincere Regards,

Asen Mwandemele

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If this is a one-time survey, and you don't need the software to refer to
the respondent's information at a subsequent visit, I think ODK can handle
what you're asking for. You would need to set up groups of questions with
constraints so that the right set of questions show up based on the
responses to your gender/age group questions.

··· On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 13:14:55 UTC, Asen wrote: > > To whom it may concern, > > We have taken an interest in ODK and are considering making use of it for > an upcoming survey. I have a few questions, maybe you can point me in the > right direction. > > Is it currently possible to gather data from several respondents then > later (on the same questionnaire), retrieve the gathered data from the > different respondents in order to apply more information? > > > I hope I am being clear, what we want to do is gather details of 2/3 > people in the household, then once we have done so, go back to each > gathered member, that meets a certain criteria and obtain more information, > based on their gender or age groups for example. > > Looking forward to your kind feedback. > > > Sincere Regards, > > Asen Mwandemele >

ODK Survey, in public Alpha (and suitable only for pilot studies where you
are comfortable with loosing any or all of your data), has some of this
functionality already.

If you can define a full set of all values you will be collecting, and if
you do not need repeat groups (e.g., limit your survey to collect
information on the first N people living in a dwelling), then you can write
multiple forms that manipulate and access data from that one full set of
values.

We're just beginning work on a pilot study using ODK Survey consisting of:
(1) initial screening interview
(2) detailed follow-up interview
(3) post-follow-up #1
(4) post-follow-up #2

By consolidating the answer fields for all the questions from all of these
screenings into a single table, you can develop a different form for each
of the 4 questionnaires, all of which read from and write to that single
table of values. The completed results from each of these questionnaires
would be published up to ODK Aggregate as a separate stream of submissions
tied to whichever form is used to do the upload.

The two example forms "Initial Refrigerator Information" and "Refrigerator
information update form" demonstrate this usage. I used the first to
create a new refrigerator record. I then chose to submit that to ODK
Aggregate (this is optional, as the data is held on the phone), then I used
the 2nd form to update the status of the fridge and give a stocking level.
I then uploaded that data to ODK Aggregate (this hits a bug in the way the
ODK Survey alpha works, so it requires a work-around -- long-press the
"Toggle All" button, and select "Sent and Unsent Forms". You can then
select the updated record and send that to ODK Aggregate). You can see the
two different result streams on the ODK 2 server:
https://opendatakit-2.appspot.com/Aggregate.html#submissions/filter///

··· ------

Because we don't have ODK Tables available yet, and that can handle adding
and removing data rows from a table (to re-allocate them to different
devices / case workers), there are operational challenges to this pilot
study:

(a) either the phone must retain all the information from all the
interviews for the duration of the study (in order for any follow-up
interviewer to be able to see and update data from the previous visit) or
extra steps would be required to manage and reassign cases across the
phones. This is doable, as all the data is stored in a SQLite database,
and you would be able to merge data across all phones in some sort of
manual process to share all cases or re-distribute cases.

(b) theft or loss of the phones means that having all the information
available on all devices is likely not a good idea, especially since the
period of the study is several months long.

Mitch

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Victoria Trinies vtrinies@gmail.comwrote:

If this is a one-time survey, and you don't need the software to refer to
the respondent's information at a subsequent visit, I think ODK can handle
what you're asking for. You would need to set up groups of questions with
constraints so that the right set of questions show up based on the
responses to your gender/age group questions.

On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 13:14:55 UTC, Asen wrote:

To whom it may concern,

We have taken an interest in ODK and are considering making use of it for
an upcoming survey. I have a few questions, maybe you can point me in the
right direction.

Is it currently possible to gather data from several respondents then
later (on the same questionnaire), retrieve the gathered data from the
different respondents in order to apply more information?

I hope I am being clear, what we want to do is gather details of 2/3
people in the household, then once we have done so, go back to each
gathered member, that meets a certain criteria and obtain more information,
based on their gender or age groups for example.

Looking forward to your kind feedback.

Sincere Regards,

Asen Mwandemele

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All,

Until Survey moves out of ALPHA stage through BETA and is released
it would be helpful if problems are discussed on the Developers list
instead of the Community list as we would like to keep confusion low
on what tools people should be using.

The core team informs users on the Community list to let them about
what features to expect and progress on ODK 2.0 tools on this list,
but it would be helpful if discussions of problems of early version of
the tools were on the ODK Developer email list instead.

Thanks for your help in keeping confusion lower on the mailing lists.

Regards,
Waylon

··· On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:12 AM, wrote: > On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:29:12 PM UTC+3, Mitch wrote: >> ODK Survey, in public Alpha (and suitable only for pilot studies where you are comfortable with loosing any or all of your data), has some of this functionality already. >> >> If you can define a full set of all values you will be collecting, and if you do not need repeat groups (e.g., limit your survey to collect information on the first N people living in a dwelling), then you can write multiple forms that manipulate and access data from that one full set of values. >> >> >> We're just beginning work on a pilot study using ODK Survey consisting of: >> (1) initial screening interview >> (2) detailed follow-up interview >> (3) post-follow-up #1 >> (4) post-follow-up #2 >> >> By consolidating the answer fields for all the questions from all of these screenings into a single table, you can develop a different form for each of the 4 questionnaires, all of which read from and write to that single table of values. The completed results from each of these questionnaires would be published up to ODK Aggregate as a separate stream of submissions tied to whichever form is used to do the upload. >> >> >> The two example forms "Initial Refrigerator Information" and "Refrigerator information update form" demonstrate this usage. I used the first to create a new refrigerator record. I then chose to submit that to ODK Aggregate (this is optional, as the data is held on the phone), then I used the 2nd form to update the status of the fridge and give a stocking level. I then uploaded that data to ODK Aggregate (this hits a bug in the way the ODK Survey alpha works, so it requires a work-around -- long-press the "Toggle All" button, and select "Sent and Unsent Forms". You can then select the updated record and send that to ODK Aggregate). You can see the two different result streams on the ODK 2 server: https://opendatakit-2.appspot.com/Aggregate.html#submissions/filter/// >> >> >> ------ >> >> Because we don't have ODK Tables available yet, and that can handle adding and removing data rows from a table (to re-allocate them to different devices / case workers), there are operational challenges to this pilot study: >> >> >> (a) either the phone must retain all the information from all the interviews for the duration of the study (in order for any follow-up interviewer to be able to see and update data from the previous visit) or extra steps would be required to manage and reassign cases across the phones. This is doable, as all the data is stored in a SQLite database, and you would be able to merge data across all phones in some sort of manual process to share all cases or re-distribute cases. >> >> >> (b) theft or loss of the phones means that having all the information available on all devices is likely not a good idea, especially since the period of the study is several months long. >> >> Mitch >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Victoria Trinies wrote: >> >> If this is a one-time survey, and you don't need the software to refer to the respondent's information at a subsequent visit, I think ODK can handle what you're asking for. You would need to set up groups of questions with constraints so that the right set of questions show up based on the responses to your gender/age group questions. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, 30 January 2013 13:14:55 UTC, Asen wrote: >> To whom it may concern, >> >> >> >> >> We have taken an interest in ODK and are considering making use of it for an upcoming survey. I have a few questions, maybe you can point me in the right direction. >> >> >> >> Is it currently possible to gather data from several respondents then later (on the same questionnaire), retrieve the gathered data from the different respondents in order to apply more information? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I hope I am being clear, what we want to do is gather details of 2/3 people in the household, then once we have done so, go back to each gathered member, that meets a certain criteria and obtain more information, based on their gender or age groups for example. >> >> >> >> >> Looking forward to your kind feedback. >> >> >> >> >> Sincere Regards, >> >> >> Asen Mwandemele >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> >> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com >> >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com >> >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> >> >> >> --- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ODK Community" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mitch Sundt >> Software Engineer >> University of Washington >> mitche...@gmail.com > > Hello TeamODK, > > I have had great interest in recent developments with ODK, I have been trying to get one of the test forms e.g "Refrigerator Information" to run through the ODK survey alpha version 2.0 I installed a while ago. > > However on clicking "get selected" the form is successfully loaded but does not display for entry, home screen still displays "nothing Available to display try getting and filling out a blank form." > > Could I be missing something here? > > Any help with be appreciated. > > Regards > Ezra. > > > -- > -- > Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com > Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ODK Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >