# This form is too complex for this device. Try simplifying expressions or ask for help on the forum

**URL:** <https://forum.getodk.org/t/this-form-is-too-complex-for-this-device-try-simplifying-expressions-or-ask-for-help-on-the-forum/23975>\
**Category:** Support\
**Tags:** odk-collect\
**Created:** [December 18, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.getodk.org/t/this-form-is-too-complex-for-this-device-try-simplifying-expressions-or-ask-for-help-on-the-forum/23975 "2019-12-18T18:40:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![fomondi](https://getodk.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/b77776/32.png) [@fomondi](https://forum.getodk.org/u/fomondi)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.getodk.org/t/this-form-is-too-complex-for-this-device-try-simplifying-expressions-or-ask-for-help-on-the-forum/23975/1 "2019-12-18T18:40:49Z")

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I am experiencing the above mentioned issue on specific devices of mine. Huawei Media Pad T1.  
Please someone kindly help.

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**Author:** ![Grzesiek2010](https://getodk.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.getodk.org/grzesiek2010/32/2881_2.png) [@Grzesiek2010](https://forum.getodk.org/u/Grzesiek2010)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.getodk.org/t/this-form-is-too-complex-for-this-device-try-simplifying-expressions-or-ask-for-help-on-the-forum/23975/2 "2019-12-18T21:25:06Z")

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Hi @fomondi  
welcome to the forum! Please [introduce yourself here!](https://forum.getodk.org/t/introduce-yourself-here/)

The message you mentioned is displayed if a form can't be loaded because it's too complex (contains too complex calculations) for a particular device.  
Here you can read about a similar case [Crash when opening a complex form on Android 4 - #13 by Grzesiek2010](https://forum.getodk.org/t/crash-when-opening-a-complex-form-on-android-4/14264/13), actually we introduced that message after investigating that case. There you can find my response how I simplified calculations in the form and you can do the same, that should help.
