Android phone

hi klaus,

in general, any android device will work. what you gain with a fancier
device is often more powerful processors, a better touchscreen, a
better camera, super accurate gps, etc. i haven't tested the ideos,
but i bet it will work perfectly.

in the future, please send such questions to the mailing list (cc:ed).
we prefer you use the mailing list because it reduces duplication and
allows the entire community to answer questions in a publicly viewable
and searchable way.

if you do get a chance to test on the ideos, can you report back to
the list so others know what the experience is like?

yaw

··· On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 22:25, Mithoefer, Klaus wrote: > I would like to use the ODK in Kenya for field surveys, but I am new to > Android phones. We can get Huawai Android (Huawei Ideos, Huawei VF 845) now > here quite affordable http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=1023 . Are > they usable for the ODK or do I need a Smartphone with an external keyboard > like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid > >

I have used the ideos in Kenya successfully. The only issue noted on this
list is that odk proper doesn't appear in the market on thus phone (though
variants do). It's easy enough to download via a link. The 845 is even
harder, market isn't actually loaded onto that phone, I haven't successfully
got odk working on that phone, though I haven't actually tried very hard :slight_smile:

Matthew

hi klaus,

in general, any android device will work. what you gain with a fancier
device is often more powerful processors, a better touchscreen, a
better camera, super accurate gps, etc. i haven't tested the ideos,
but i bet it will work perfectly.

in the future, please send such questions to the mailing list (cc:ed).
we prefer you use the mailing list because it reduces duplication and
allows the entire community to answer questions in a publicly viewable
and searchable way.

if you do get a chance to test on the ideos, can you report back to
the list so others know what the experience is like?

yaw

I would like to use the ODK in Kenya for field surveys, but I am new to
Android phones. We can get Huawai Android (Huawei Ideos, Huawei VF 845)
now
here quite affordable http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=1023 . Are
they usable for the ODK or do I need a Smartphone with an external
keyboard

··· On 18 Feb 2011 4:14 PM, "Yaw Anokwa" wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 22:25, Mithoefer, Klaus wrote: > like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid > >

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matthew,

what happens if you download the apk directly to the 845. does it
throw any sort of error message? where does it fail?

yaw

··· On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 06:26, Matthew de Gale wrote: > I have used the ideos in Kenya successfully. The only issue noted on this > list is that odk proper doesn't appear in the market on thus phone (though > variants do). It's easy enough to download via a link. The 845 is even > harder, market isn't actually loaded onto that phone, I haven't successfully > got odk working on that phone, though I haven't actually tried very hard :-) > > Matthew > > On 18 Feb 2011 4:14 PM, "Yaw Anokwa" wrote: > > hi klaus, > > in general, any android device will work. what you gain with a fancier > device is often more powerful processors, a better touchscreen, a > better camera, super accurate gps, etc. i haven't tested the ideos, > but i bet it will work perfectly. > > in the future, please send such questions to the mailing list (cc:ed). > we prefer you use the mailing list because it reduces duplication and > allows the entire community to answer questions in a publicly viewable > and searchable way. > > if you do get a chance to test on the ideos, can you report back to > the list so others know what the experience is like? > > yaw > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 22:25, Mithoefer, Klaus wrote: >> I would like to use the ODK in Kenya for field surveys, but I am new to >> Android phones. We can get Huawai Android (Huawei Ideos, Huawei VF 845) >> now >> here quite affordable http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=1023 . Are >> they usable for the ODK or do I need a Smartphone with an external >> keyboard >> like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid >> >> > > -- > Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com > Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en > > -- > Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com > Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >

To clarify: the 845 is tricky to to use any APKs because of the
lack of a market app (apparently you can take it to Safaricom to get
Market loaded) and because the config to download non-market sources
is disabled and not in the usual place. I tried to load external APKs
while i was in Nairobi and failed: my later attempts to load it from a
PC in South Africa failed because its also networked locked. I've
since given up :wink: I don't have any reason to believe that the 845
can't run ODK but its a pain to configure. So its more of a buyer's
caveat than a bug report :wink: for ODK

Matthew

··· On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Yaw Anokwa wrote: > matthew, > > what happens if you download the apk directly to the 845. does it > throw any sort of error message? where does it fail? > > yaw > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 06:26, Matthew de Gale wrote: >> I have used the ideos in Kenya successfully. The only issue noted on this >> list is that odk proper doesn't appear in the market on thus phone (though >> variants do). It's easy enough to download via a link. The 845 is even >> harder, market isn't actually loaded onto that phone, I haven't successfully >> got odk working on that phone, though I haven't actually tried very hard :-) >> >> Matthew >> >> On 18 Feb 2011 4:14 PM, "Yaw Anokwa" wrote: >> >> hi klaus, >> >> in general, any android device will work. what you gain with a fancier >> device is often more powerful processors, a better touchscreen, a >> better camera, super accurate gps, etc. i haven't tested the ideos, >> but i bet it will work perfectly. >> >> in the future, please send such questions to the mailing list (cc:ed). >> we prefer you use the mailing list because it reduces duplication and >> allows the entire community to answer questions in a publicly viewable >> and searchable way. >> >> if you do get a chance to test on the ideos, can you report back to >> the list so others know what the experience is like? >> >> yaw >> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 22:25, Mithoefer, Klaus wrote: >>> I would like to use the ODK in Kenya for field surveys, but I am new to >>> Android phones. We can get Huawai Android (Huawei Ideos, Huawei VF 845) >>> now >>> here quite affordable http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=1023 . Are >>> they usable for the ODK or do I need a Smartphone with an external >>> keyboard >>> like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> >> -- >> Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> > > -- > Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com > Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >

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sometimes the carriers don't play nice and lock down the phones.
fortunately, there are ways to get around the locks.

i haven't tried these, and they do require some technical expertise,
but they should work just fine.


yaw

··· On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 07:05, Matthew de Gale wrote: > To clarify: the 845 is tricky to to use *any* APKs because of the > lack of a market app (apparently you can take it to Safaricom to get > Market loaded) and because the config to download non-market sources > is disabled and not in the usual place. I tried to load external APKs > while i was in Nairobi and failed: my later attempts to load it from a > PC in South Africa failed because its also networked locked. I've > since given up ;-) I don't have any reason to believe that the 845 > *can't* run ODK but its a pain to configure. So its more of a buyer's > caveat than a bug report ;-) for ODK > > > Matthew > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Yaw Anokwa wrote: >> matthew, >> >> what happens if you download the apk directly to the 845. does it >> throw any sort of error message? where does it fail? >> >> yaw >> >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 06:26, Matthew de Gale wrote: >>> I have used the ideos in Kenya successfully. The only issue noted on this >>> list is that odk proper doesn't appear in the market on thus phone (though >>> variants do). It's easy enough to download via a link. The 845 is even >>> harder, market isn't actually loaded onto that phone, I haven't successfully >>> got odk working on that phone, though I haven't actually tried very hard :-) >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> On 18 Feb 2011 4:14 PM, "Yaw Anokwa" wrote: >>> >>> hi klaus, >>> >>> in general, any android device will work. what you gain with a fancier >>> device is often more powerful processors, a better touchscreen, a >>> better camera, super accurate gps, etc. i haven't tested the ideos, >>> but i bet it will work perfectly. >>> >>> in the future, please send such questions to the mailing list (cc:ed). >>> we prefer you use the mailing list because it reduces duplication and >>> allows the entire community to answer questions in a publicly viewable >>> and searchable way. >>> >>> if you do get a chance to test on the ideos, can you report back to >>> the list so others know what the experience is like? >>> >>> yaw >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 22:25, Mithoefer, Klaus wrote: >>>> I would like to use the ODK in Kenya for field surveys, but I am new to >>>> Android phones. We can get Huawai Android (Huawei Ideos, Huawei VF 845) >>>> now >>>> here quite affordable http://www.safaricom.co.ke/index.php?id=1023 . Are >>>> they usable for the ODK or do I need a Smartphone with an external >>>> keyboard >>>> like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com >>> Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >>> >>> -- >>> Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com >>> Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >>> >> >> -- >> Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> > > > > -- > -- > Matthew de Gale > Programme Manager: magrica.com > SANGONeT: Mobile Agriculture Services for Africa > Phone: +27 11 381 3408 > Mobile: +27 79891 0129 > Mobile (Kenya): +254 717 740812 > matthew@magrica.com /matthew@sangonet.org.za > > -- > Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com > Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >