Hello,
I've been asking this in several places but without too much luck so far.
I'm setting up a project to map out traditional trade shops in Malaysia (as
opposed to big chain stores) using ODK, but am having trouble coming up
with a good estimate of how much manpower is needed for how long to cover a
given surface.
So far I've been working on the assumption that we'll do pilots and
extrapolate from there, but I was wondering if there is a more accurate or
established method of guesstimating the resource requirement early on. How
have you guys planned this aspect of your projects?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Christian
Hey Christian,
What is the estimated size of your proposed project area?
R.
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Christian Mondorf wrote:
Hello,
I've been asking this in several places but without too much luck so far.
I'm setting up a project to map out traditional trade shops in Malaysia (as
opposed to big chain stores) using ODK, but am having trouble coming up
with a good estimate of how much manpower is needed for how long to cover a
given surface.
So far I've been working on the assumption that we'll do pilots and
extrapolate from there, but I was wondering if there is a more accurate or
established method of guesstimating the resource requirement early on. How
have you guys planned this aspect of your projects?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Christian
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Hi Roxroy,
Ultimately, all of Malaysia, but for the moment the valley around Kuala
Lumpur.
This covers rural and urban areas.
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On Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:13:43 UTC+8, OutSourceRox wrote:
>
> Hey Christian,
> What is the estimated size of your proposed project area?
>
> R.
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Christian wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've been asking this in several places but without too much luck so far.
>> I'm setting up a project to map out traditional trade shops in Malaysia (as
>> opposed to big chain stores) using ODK, but am having trouble coming up
>> with a good estimate of how much manpower is needed for how long to cover a
>> given surface.
>>
>> So far I've been working on the assumption that we'll do pilots and
>> extrapolate from there, but I was wondering if there is a more accurate or
>> established method of guesstimating the resource requirement early on. How
>> have you guys planned this aspect of your projects?
>>
>> Any help is greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Christian
>>
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Christian,
I'm sure this much is clear: Manpower estimation is a function of (number
of days available) o (time for one survey) o (transaction cost in terms of
time between surveys) o (number of surveys needed to be done).
In our surveys in an urban and peri-urban area in Asia, the time for one
survey is less than one minute, but we have a very simple ODK form. The
time between surveys for moving from one household to the next is 10-20
minutes (i.e. much more than the form survey time), but this is optimized
by organizing by sub-districts within the municipality and environs.
Network analysis at its simplest.
A somewhat random guesstimate: having never been to Kuala Lampur, but
understanding that the frequency of "trade stores" (assuming I know what
you mean) is going to similar to other asian cities, and probably at a rate
of one per ~500 people, in the metro area with a population of 1.9 M
people, then the number of stores you need to cover is ~3800. I'd
therefore guess 4-5 surveyors working 5 hr shifts with 20 minute
turnarounds (3 surveys per hr) X 5 hrs X 5 is 75 per day, or about two
months of work for that sized team, which seems about right to me.
James
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Christian Mondorf wrote:
Hi Roxroy,
Ultimately, all of Malaysia, but for the moment the valley around Kuala
Lumpur.
This covers rural and urban areas.
On Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:13:43 UTC+8, OutSourceRox wrote:
Hey Christian,
What is the estimated size of your proposed project area?
R.
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Christian wrote:
Hello,
I've been asking this in several places but without too much luck so
far. I'm setting up a project to map out traditional trade shops in
Malaysia (as opposed to big chain stores) using ODK, but am having trouble
coming up with a good estimate of how much manpower is needed for how long
to cover a given surface.
So far I've been working on the assumption that we'll do pilots and
extrapolate from there, but I was wondering if there is a more accurate or
established method of guesstimating the resource requirement early on. How
have you guys planned this aspect of your projects?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Christian
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I'm working on a project at the moment - I don't know the size of Malaysia,
but from my project we currently have about 32 phones equipped for field
staff/crews to collect data...
So you might be looking at that number of devices...
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On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Christian Mondorf wrote:
Hi Roxroy,
Ultimately, all of Malaysia, but for the moment the valley around Kuala
Lumpur.
This covers rural and urban areas.
On Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:13:43 UTC+8, OutSourceRox wrote:
Hey Christian,
What is the estimated size of your proposed project area?
R.
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Christian wrote:
Hello,
I've been asking this in several places but without too much luck so
far. I'm setting up a project to map out traditional trade shops in
Malaysia (as opposed to big chain stores) using ODK, but am having trouble
coming up with a good estimate of how much manpower is needed for how long
to cover a given surface.
So far I've been working on the assumption that we'll do pilots and
extrapolate from there, but I was wondering if there is a more accurate or
established method of guesstimating the resource requirement early on. How
have you guys planned this aspect of your projects?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Christian
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Thanks James, that's precisely what I was looking for!
My current thinking is that we should run pilots in urban and rural
settings to estimate how much we cover in a given timeframe, and then
extrapolate from there, but wanted to check what others had done so as to
avoid reinventing the wheel.
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On Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:18:33 UTC+8, jpd wrote:
>
> Christian,
>
> I'm sure this much is clear: Manpower estimation is a function of (number
> of days available) o (time for one survey) o (transaction cost in terms of
> time between surveys) o (number of surveys needed to be done).
>
> In our surveys in an urban and peri-urban area in Asia, the time for one
> survey is less than one minute, but we have a very simple ODK form. The
> time between surveys for moving from one household to the next is 10-20
> minutes (i.e. much more than the form survey time), but this is optimized
> by organizing by sub-districts within the municipality and environs.
> Network analysis at its simplest.
>
> A somewhat random guesstimate: having never been to Kuala Lampur, but
> understanding that the frequency of "trade stores" (assuming I know what
> you mean) is going to similar to other asian cities, and probably at a rate
> of one per ~500 people, in the metro area with a population of 1.9 M
> people, then the number of stores you need to cover is ~3800. I'd
> therefore guess 4-5 surveyors working 5 hr shifts with 20 minute
> turnarounds (3 surveys per hr) X 5 hrs X 5 is 75 per day, or about two
> months of work for that sized team, which seems about right to me.
>
> James
>
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Christian wrote:
>
>> Hi Roxroy,
>>
>> Ultimately, all of Malaysia, but for the moment the valley around Kuala
>> Lumpur.
>>
>> This covers rural and urban areas.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:13:43 UTC+8, OutSourceRox wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Christian,
>>> What is the estimated size of your proposed project area?
>>>
>>> R.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Christian wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I've been asking this in several places but without too much luck so
>>>> far. I'm setting up a project to map out traditional trade shops in
>>>> Malaysia (as opposed to big chain stores) using ODK, but am having trouble
>>>> coming up with a good estimate of how much manpower is needed for how long
>>>> to cover a given surface.
>>>>
>>>> So far I've been working on the assumption that we'll do pilots and
>>>> extrapolate from there, but I was wondering if there is a more accurate or
>>>> established method of guesstimating the resource requirement early on. How
>>>> have you guys planned this aspect of your projects?
>>>>
>>>> Any help is greatly appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
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