Offline ODK usage with Nexus 7

I am trying to load forms offline onto a Nexus 7, which has no SD card
support. When I connect the Nexus to my computer via the USB, I cannot
find a folder with ODK or forms, thus I can't save my form onto the Nexus.
I found the following on the Google Nexus 7 support page:

"Important: Android manages and carefully guards the portion of internal
storage where the system, apps, and most data for those apps are stored,
because this area may contain your private information. It's not possible
to view this portion of internal storage when you connect your device to a
computer with a USB cable. The other portion of internal storage, where
music, downloaded files, and so on are stored, remains visible for your
convenience."

Does this mean there is no way to get forms onto Nexus when offline? Any
advice on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Hi Susan,

The Nexus 7 has internal storage that you can use.

  1. Make sure you've enabled MTP.
    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-configure-the-usb-on-your-nexus-7.html
  2. Connect the device with USB to your computer.
  3. If you are on Windows, it should mount a drive. If are on a Mac,
    you will need http://www.android.com/filetransfer
  4. Copy the forms to /odk/forms

If you are comfortable with the command line, you can skip all this
and use adb (http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html)

Yaw

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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Susan Dudis sdudis@tulane.edu wrote:

I am trying to load forms offline onto a Nexus 7, which has no SD card
support. When I connect the Nexus to my computer via the USB, I cannot find
a folder with ODK or forms, thus I can't save my form onto the Nexus. I
found the following on the Google Nexus 7 support page:

"Important: Android manages and carefully guards the portion of internal
storage where the system, apps, and most data for those apps are stored,
because this area may contain your private information. It's not possible to
view this portion of internal storage when you connect your device to a
computer with a USB cable. The other portion of internal storage, where
music, downloaded files, and so on are stored, remains visible for your
convenience."

Does this mean there is no way to get forms onto Nexus when offline? Any
advice on this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

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I am using a Nexus 7 if fact I use three different ones and once ODK is
installed I have no problem at all seeing the ODK directory when it is
connected to a windows machine and I have had no problems copying forms to
it and testing them. The nexus does not have an SD card it only has
internal storage and will just look like another drive once you connect it
to a windows machine. Are you sure you have installed ODK correctly.

··· On Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:50:45 UTC+1, Susan Dudis wrote: > > I am trying to load forms offline onto a Nexus 7, which has no SD card > support. When I connect the Nexus to my computer via the USB, I cannot > find a folder with ODK or forms, thus I can't save my form onto the Nexus. > I found the following on the Google Nexus 7 support page: > > "*Important:* Android manages and carefully guards the portion of > internal storage where the system, apps, and most data for those apps are > stored, because this area may contain your private information. It's not > possible to view this portion of internal storage when you connect your > device to a computer with a USB cable. The other portion of internal > storage, where music, downloaded files, and so on are stored, remains > visible for your convenience." > > Does this mean there is no way to get forms onto Nexus when offline? Any > advice on this would be much appreciated. Thanks! >

AirDroid is easy, and works well with Linux

Many thanks!

··· On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:44:28 PM UTC-5, Yaw Anokwa wrote: > > Hi Susan, > > The Nexus 7 has internal storage that you can use. > > 1. Make sure you've enabled MTP. > > http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-configure-the-usb-on-your-nexus-7.html > 2. Connect the device with USB to your computer. > 3. If you are on Windows, it should mount a drive. If are on a Mac, > you will need http://www.android.com/filetransfer > 4. Copy the forms to /odk/forms > > If you are comfortable with the command line, you can skip all this > and use adb (http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html) > > Yaw > -- > Need ODK services? Go to http://nafundi.com for form design, data > cleaning, custom reporting, and software development for ODK. > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Susan Dudis <sdu...@tulane.edu> wrote: > > I am trying to load forms offline onto a Nexus 7, which has no SD card > > support. When I connect the Nexus to my computer via the USB, I cannot > find > > a folder with ODK or forms, thus I can't save my form onto the Nexus. I > > found the following on the Google Nexus 7 support page: > > > > "Important: Android manages and carefully guards the portion of internal > > storage where the system, apps, and most data for those apps are stored, > > because this area may contain your private information. It's not > possible to > > view this portion of internal storage when you connect your device to a > > computer with a USB cable. The other portion of internal storage, where > > music, downloaded files, and so on are stored, remains visible for your > > convenience." > > > > Does this mean there is no way to get forms onto Nexus when offline? > Any > > advice on this would be much appreciated. Thanks! > > > > -- > > -- > > Post: opend...@googlegroups.com > > Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com > > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "ODK Community" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > >

If you haven't already...

install ODK Collect on your device.
Run ODK Collect

This will create the 'odk' directory and the directories underneath it.

When you connect up with a USB cable, you should then see those
directories.

If you do this while you are already connected, the MTP software on Windows
may not immediately update to show all the directories that were created.
This is particularly a problem on my Samsung Galaxy S III. Very irksome.

Mitch

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AirDroid is easy, and works well with Linux

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Hi,

I've done all of the above, but still I don't see a folder called "odk". Any ideas? I'm using a Nexus 7 too, connected via USB to a Windows computer.

Thanks,
Maha

··· On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:29:36 PM UTC-4, Mitch Sundt wrote: > If you haven't already... > > > install ODK Collect on your device. > Run ODK Collect > > > > This will create the 'odk' directory and the directories underneath it. > > > > > When you connect up with a USB cable, you should then see those directories. > > > If you do this while you are already connected, the MTP software on Windows may not immediately update to show all the directories that were created. This is particularly a problem on my Samsung Galaxy S III. Very irksome. > > > > Mitch > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Jerry3904 wrote: > > AirDroid is easy, and works well with Linux > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Post: opend...@googlegroups.com > > Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com > > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ODK Community" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > Mitch Sundt > Software Engineer > University of Washington > mitche...@gmail.com

The software that exposes the phone's SDCard to your laptop can sometimes
not refresh what is present, and will show the files from the previous
connection.

I don't know how to get it to reliably display all the available
directories and files when connecting to a Windows PC. Occasionally,
disconnecting and reconnecting will correct the problem; often it won't. I
do not know if this problem also exists for Macs.

If the directories do not show within the Nexus 7 device, try to create an
'odk' folder, and, within that, a 'collect' folder, and a 'forms' folder
within that (so you end up with /odk/collect/forms/ on the Nexus 7 device.

If 'testing.xml' is the filename for an XML form definition generated by
XLSForm from your Excel spreadsheet, place that in /odk/collect/forms/ on
your Nexus 7 device, and start ODK Collect. It should appear on the Fill
Blank Forms page.

Mitch

··· On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:07 AM, wrote:

Hi,

I've done all of the above, but still I don't see a folder called "odk".
Any ideas? I'm using a Nexus 7 too, connected via USB to a Windows computer.

Thanks,
Maha

On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:29:36 PM UTC-4, Mitch Sundt wrote:

If you haven't already...

install ODK Collect on your device.
Run ODK Collect

This will create the 'odk' directory and the directories underneath it.

When you connect up with a USB cable, you should then see those
directories.

If you do this while you are already connected, the MTP software on
Windows may not immediately update to show all the directories that were
created. This is particularly a problem on my Samsung Galaxy S III. Very
irksome.

Mitch

On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Jerry3904 Storm...@gmail.com wrote:

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Hi,

I had the same Problem. I had to enable the "Debugging Mode" and then I have seen the folder.

Regards

Martin

To be clear: enabling 'Debugging Mode' is not required to make these
folders appear.

However, it is certainly possible that enabling it caused the driver to
detect a change and refresh its display of the available folders (causing
the 'odk' folder to appear).

··· On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Millemaker wrote:

Hi,

I had the same Problem. I had to enable the "Debugging Mode" and then I
have seen the folder.

Regards

Martin

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