Rainforest barcoding

We're getting two Bluebird barcode scanners from SDG Systems. They
have recommended getting machines with an Android system and tell me I
need software now.

Ours is a rather unusual situation. we are a South American NGO
working to protect one of the world's richest and most endangered
rainforests in Ecuador. We're hoping to sell carbon credits in order
to help raise money for the protection of the trees, and are proposing
to barcode and scan the trees as proof of their continued health and
existence. This means that our operators are going to be local
Ecuadorean farmers in low-technology places with a pretty basic level
of education, and Spanish speaking.

What I need is for the Bluebird scanners to ask them a short sequence
of questions that they will enter the answers to. They'll need to put
in the tree species, its size, a name for the person, any comments,
and whether they have scanned a tree or a boundary marker. I'd like
the scan itself to automatically add GPS coordinates and date and time
of the scan.

We'll probably have to take a few thousand scans and then have the
machine transported to somwhere that the data can be uploaded to our
offices in the city. But I'm also needing to have a better discussion
of how data upload can be achieved, given the basic conditions in the
field.

Anyone have any experience of ODK or anything else for this problem?
best regards
Anthony Waldron
Director of Conservation
Fundacion Maquipucuna

hi anthony,

we don't have access to bluebirds, but odk should work just fine on
them -- gps, camera, time stamp and text input should be the same as
any android phone. the barcode scanner uses an laser and not the
camera, but that shouldn't require any code changes on your part.

we deployed a similar form for the jane goodall foundation in tanzania
(see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODszZsaSJdw) and it worked pretty
well. the data collectors where local and spoke no english. we trained
them in a day and deployed the next day with a multi-language form.
after they collected the tree data, they brought it to the office and
we used wifi to send it to aggregate and then generated a google earth
kml. the bluebirds have gsm so you could send the data in from the
field as well. i'm glad to connect you to the group doing that work if
that would make your life easier.

also, as you start ordering devices and making the form, send your
questions and experiences to opendatakit-implementers@googlegroups.com
and the other implementers can offer feedback.

yaw

··· On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:49, anthony waldron wrote: > We're getting two Bluebird barcode scanners from SDG Systems. They > have recommended getting machines with an Android system and tell me I > need software now. > > Ours is a rather unusual situation. we are a South American NGO > working to protect one of the world's richest and most endangered > rainforests in Ecuador. We're hoping to sell carbon credits in order > to help raise money for the protection of the trees, and are proposing > to barcode and scan the trees as proof of their continued health and > existence. This means that our operators are going to be local > Ecuadorean farmers in low-technology places with a pretty basic level > of education, and Spanish speaking. > > What I need is for the Bluebird scanners to ask them a short sequence > of questions that they will enter the answers to. They'll need to put > in the tree species, its size, a name for the person, any comments, > and whether they have scanned a tree or a boundary marker. I'd like > the scan itself to automatically add GPS coordinates and date and time > of the scan. > > We'll probably have to take a few thousand scans and then have the > machine transported to somwhere that the data can be uploaded to our > offices in the city. But I'm also needing to have a better discussion > of how data upload can be achieved, given the basic conditions in the > field. > > Anyone have any experience of ODK or anything else for this problem? > best regards > Anthony Waldron > Director of Conservation > Fundacion Maquipucuna > > -- > Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com > Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >

HI Anthony,

My company (Rhiza Labs) is working with customers using ODK on the
Bluebird devices (in partnership with SDG Systems) and then feeding
the data back to our Rhiza Insight mapping/analysis platform. You can
read a bit about that work here: http://www.rhizalabs.com/solutions/act/

We'd be happy to talk to you about these and other projects we're
working on with ODK and the Bluebird devices.

Mike Higgins
CTO, Rhiza Labs

··· On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:49 PM, anthony waldron wrote:

We're getting two Bluebird barcode scanners from SDG Systems. They
have recommended getting machines with an Android system and tell me I
need software now.

Ours is a rather unusual situation. we are a South American NGO
working to protect one of the world's richest and most endangered
rainforests in Ecuador. We're hoping to sell carbon credits in order
to help raise money for the protection of the trees, and are proposing
to barcode and scan the trees as proof of their continued health and
existence. This means that our operators are going to be local
Ecuadorean farmers in low-technology places with a pretty basic level
of education, and Spanish speaking.

What I need is for the Bluebird scanners to ask them a short sequence
of questions that they will enter the answers to. They'll need to put
in the tree species, its size, a name for the person, any comments,
and whether they have scanned a tree or a boundary marker. I'd like
the scan itself to automatically add GPS coordinates and date and time
of the scan.

We'll probably have to take a few thousand scans and then have the
machine transported to somwhere that the data can be uploaded to our
offices in the city. But I'm also needing to have a better discussion
of how data upload can be achieved, given the basic conditions in the
field.

Anyone have any experience of ODK or anything else for this problem?
best regards
Anthony Waldron
Director of Conservation
Fundacion Maquipucuna

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Yes, we're working with customers that are using ODK on the Bluebird devices
(in partnership with SDG Systems) and then feeding the data collected back
to our Rhiza Insight mapping/analysis platform. You can read a bit about
that work here: http://www.rhizalabs.com/solutions/act/

We'd be happy to talk to you about these and other projects we're working on
with ODK and the Bluebird devices.

Thanks!

--Alison

··· On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Yaw Anokwa wrote:

hi anthony,

we don't have access to bluebirds, but odk should work just fine on
them -- gps, camera, time stamp and text input should be the same as
any android phone. the barcode scanner uses an laser and not the
camera, but that shouldn't require any code changes on your part.

we deployed a similar form for the jane goodall foundation in tanzania
(see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODszZsaSJdw) and it worked pretty
well. the data collectors where local and spoke no english. we trained
them in a day and deployed the next day with a multi-language form.
after they collected the tree data, they brought it to the office and
we used wifi to send it to aggregate and then generated a google earth
kml. the bluebirds have gsm so you could send the data in from the
field as well. i'm glad to connect you to the group doing that work if
that would make your life easier.

also, as you start ordering devices and making the form, send your
questions and experiences to opendatakit-implementers@googlegroups.com
and the other implementers can offer feedback.

yaw

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:49, anthony waldron antwaldron@googlemail.com wrote:

We're getting two Bluebird barcode scanners from SDG Systems. They
have recommended getting machines with an Android system and tell me I
need software now.

Ours is a rather unusual situation. we are a South American NGO
working to protect one of the world's richest and most endangered
rainforests in Ecuador. We're hoping to sell carbon credits in order
to help raise money for the protection of the trees, and are proposing
to barcode and scan the trees as proof of their continued health and
existence. This means that our operators are going to be local
Ecuadorean farmers in low-technology places with a pretty basic level
of education, and Spanish speaking.

What I need is for the Bluebird scanners to ask them a short sequence
of questions that they will enter the answers to. They'll need to put
in the tree species, its size, a name for the person, any comments,
and whether they have scanned a tree or a boundary marker. I'd like
the scan itself to automatically add GPS coordinates and date and time
of the scan.

We'll probably have to take a few thousand scans and then have the
machine transported to somwhere that the data can be uploaded to our
offices in the city. But I'm also needing to have a better discussion
of how data upload can be achieved, given the basic conditions in the
field.

Anyone have any experience of ODK or anything else for this problem?
best regards
Anthony Waldron
Director of Conservation
Fundacion Maquipucuna

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Michael,

What stack are you guys using for your backend? Any of it open source?

Thanks,

Matt

··· On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Michael Higgins wrote:

HI Anthony,

My company (Rhiza Labs) is working with customers using ODK on the Bluebird
devices (in partnership with SDG Systems) and then feeding the data back to
our Rhiza Insight mapping/analysis platform. You can read a bit about that
work here: http://www.rhizalabs.com/solutions/act/

We'd be happy to talk to you about these and other projects we're working
on with ODK and the Bluebird devices.

Mike Higgins
CTO, Rhiza Labs

On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:49 PM, anthony waldron wrote:

We're getting two Bluebird barcode scanners from SDG Systems. They

have recommended getting machines with an Android system and tell me I
need software now.

Ours is a rather unusual situation. we are a South American NGO
working to protect one of the world's richest and most endangered
rainforests in Ecuador. We're hoping to sell carbon credits in order
to help raise money for the protection of the trees, and are proposing
to barcode and scan the trees as proof of their continued health and
existence. This means that our operators are going to be local
Ecuadorean farmers in low-technology places with a pretty basic level
of education, and Spanish speaking.

What I need is for the Bluebird scanners to ask them a short sequence
of questions that they will enter the answers to. They'll need to put
in the tree species, its size, a name for the person, any comments,
and whether they have scanned a tree or a boundary marker. I'd like
the scan itself to automatically add GPS coordinates and date and time
of the scan.

We'll probably have to take a few thousand scans and then have the
machine transported to somwhere that the data can be uploaded to our
offices in the city. But I'm also needing to have a better discussion
of how data upload can be achieved, given the basic conditions in the
field.

Anyone have any experience of ODK or anything else for this problem?
best regards
Anthony Waldron
Director of Conservation
Fundacion Maquipucuna

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No, it's a hosted commercial product. It's called Insight. We're
trying to hit a sweet spot for people who need easy-to-create maps and
simple dataset management on the web, but still with a fair amount of
power. Most of our customers either have no GIS staff, or the staff
they've got is overburdened :wink: And typically they don't have
programming capability or the ability to integrate open-source systems
themselves. A lot of our customers are in the non-profit space.

I don't want to sound too sales-y on the list, but if you (or anyone
else) is interested, you can find out more here:

http://www.rhizalabs.com/products/insight/overview/

We also have a demo site you can play around with, and we do webinars
and so forth (I think there's one scheduled for next week). Let me
know if you want more details.

We really like ODK --- we were introduced to the ODK team by some
folks at Google, so we added support to our product for it and now
we're trying to contribute back to the community. You can create
(very basic) forms in Insight, download the forms from Insight, and
upload the data directly back to it from the device. We're trying to
help contribute to the project by working on the new authentication
code and helping with bugfixes and so forth.

Mike

··· On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Matt Berg wrote:

Michael,

What stack are you guys using for your backend? Any of it open
source?

Thanks,

Matt

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Michael Higgins sui66iy@gmail.com wrote:
HI Anthony,

My company (Rhiza Labs) is working with customers using ODK on the
Bluebird devices (in partnership with SDG Systems) and then feeding
the data back to our Rhiza Insight mapping/analysis platform. You
can read a bit about that work here: http://www.rhizalabs.com/solutions/act/

We'd be happy to talk to you about these and other projects we're
working on with ODK and the Bluebird devices.

Mike Higgins
CTO, Rhiza Labs

On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:49 PM, anthony waldron wrote:

We're getting two Bluebird barcode scanners from SDG Systems. They
have recommended getting machines with an Android system and tell me I
need software now.

Ours is a rather unusual situation. we are a South American NGO
working to protect one of the world's richest and most endangered
rainforests in Ecuador. We're hoping to sell carbon credits in order
to help raise money for the protection of the trees, and are proposing
to barcode and scan the trees as proof of their continued health and
existence. This means that our operators are going to be local
Ecuadorean farmers in low-technology places with a pretty basic level
of education, and Spanish speaking.

What I need is for the Bluebird scanners to ask them a short sequence
of questions that they will enter the answers to. They'll need to put
in the tree species, its size, a name for the person, any comments,
and whether they have scanned a tree or a boundary marker. I'd like
the scan itself to automatically add GPS coordinates and date and time
of the scan.

We'll probably have to take a few thousand scans and then have the
machine transported to somwhere that the data can be uploaded to our
offices in the city. But I'm also needing to have a better discussion
of how data upload can be achieved, given the basic conditions in the
field.

Anyone have any experience of ODK or anything else for this problem?
best regards
Anthony Waldron
Director of Conservation
Fundacion Maquipucuna

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