Use of ODK collect to draw a line and measure and area

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Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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it would be interesting to see the too and see it in action....

··· On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Jon Parsons wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do need
custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or "geolinestring" to
record a path. Within the sub form I include a location question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes the
results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the geometries
can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

··· On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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I think i might have to get me an android device and start playing
around...because I worked on a similar project for allowing GIS
to recognize my export from handheld device....

··· On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Roxroy Bollers wrote:

it would be interesting to see the too and see it in action....

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Jon Parsons j.parsons@globalcanopy.orgwrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to show a
demo.

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do need
custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or "geolinestring" to
record a path. Within the sub form I include a location question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes the
results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the geometries
can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

··· On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman wrote: > > Neil > > On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people >> there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it >> based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where >> they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and >> size. >> >> We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called >> "distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then >> you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its >> not possible for the user to add data about it. >> >> So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an >> application within a collect form that can do this all together, so >> data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can >> be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form >> and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for >> visualisation. >> >> Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone >> know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future? >> >> Jon >> >> -- >> Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en > > -- > Post: opendatakit@googlegroups.com > Unsubscribe: opendatakit+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >

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Yes. My test server is at http://thai. cloudtec.com.au

User: test
Pwd : test

There is an example survey on there using an area and also another
recording a path. I haven't tested using odkcollect for a while as I use a
variant of collect called fieldTask (available in market place).

Should work best with chrome. I can make an amazon image of the server
available if you are interested and the source code is available at Google
code project smap-suite.

Regards

··· On Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM, "Roxroy Bollers" wrote:

Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to show a
demo.

On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman neilpenman@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do
need custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or "geolinestring"
to record a path. Within the sub form I include a location question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes the
results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the geometries
can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" j.parsons@globalcanopy.org wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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Feature mavens: This sounds really interesting and I can see a number of
good applications for land use changes, land ownership, agricultural
practices, demography, etc. "Survey" data in the original 1700's sense of
the word.

A land-survey approach would involve mapping the polygon overlay you want
to create via a series of adjacent points to generate a shapefile (that
might be an archaic term nowadays, I don't know). By walking the
perimeter of the land you could generate those points as a set, using the
existing data gathering of ODK. Once exported to fusion tables, you could
generate a KML file (Google's version of how GIS shapefiles should be
done), where you use the element to generate the polygon in
google maps or google earth.

Alternatively (to walking the land), if you used the range-finder you could
derive the other points. I'm not sure how that would work, but I think an
approach would be to generate the lat,long coordinates based on the
rangefinder data. Yaw checked the rangefinder code in sometime ago
http://groups.google.com/group/open-data-kit/browse_thread/thread/41cbd1adeff9e520?pli=1
. So, standing in one point you could get a single plot mapped with one
anchor point and the remaining computed. Accuracy would need to be
determined.

  • James
··· On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Roxroy Bollers wrote:

I think i might have to get me an android device and start playing
around...because I worked on a similar project for allowing GIS
to recognize my export from handheld device....

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Roxroy Bollers rkbollers@gmail.comwrote:

it would be interesting to see the too and see it in action....

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Jon Parsons j.parsons@globalcanopy.orgwrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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Hey Niel,
That is very impressive. I would appreciate the image of the amazon if you
have the time. Thanks for sharing.

R

··· On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Neil Penman wrote:

Yes. My test server is at http://thai. cloudtec.com.au

User: test
Pwd : test

There is an example survey on there using an area and also another
recording a path. I haven't tested using odkcollect for a while as I use a
variant of collect called fieldTask (available in market place).

Should work best with chrome. I can make an amazon image of the server
available if you are interested and the source code is available at Google
code project smap-suite.

Regards
On Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM, "Roxroy Bollers" rkbollers@gmail.com wrote:

Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to show
a demo.

On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman neilpenman@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do
need custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or "geolinestring"
to record a path. Within the sub form I include a location question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes the
results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the geometries
can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" j.parsons@globalcanopy.org wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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No problem. This version is still in test, I'm planning on releasing it
on the 17 February. So I''ll create a public Amazon image around about
then if thats ok. I'll also try and create some documentation on how to do
surveys that collect geometries.

Regards

Neil

··· On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Roxroy Bollers wrote:

Hey Niel,
That is very impressive. I would appreciate the image of the amazon if you
have the time. Thanks for sharing.

R

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Neil Penman neilpenman@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. My test server is at http://thai. cloudtec.com.au

User: test
Pwd : test

There is an example survey on there using an area and also another
recording a path. I haven't tested using odkcollect for a while as I use a
variant of collect called fieldTask (available in market place).

Should work best with chrome. I can make an amazon image of the server
available if you are interested and the source code is available at Google
code project smap-suite.

Regards
On Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM, "Roxroy Bollers" rkbollers@gmail.com wrote:

Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to show
a demo.

On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman neilpenman@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do
need custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or "geolinestring"
to record a path. Within the sub form I include a location question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes the
results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the geometries
can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" j.parsons@globalcanopy.org wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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Hi,
This thread should be of
interest: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/opendatakit/vIpPH5dcYcc/discussion

(hope you don't mind the new thread, just wanted to collect conversation
related to it in one place).

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That would be fantastic. I have windows mobile 6.1 hand helds I am using
for a project, but would like to introduce something lighter and more
simplistic....

··· On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Neil Penman wrote:

No problem. This version is still in test, I'm planning on releasing it
on the 17 February. So I''ll create a public Amazon image around about
then if thats ok. I'll also try and create some documentation on how to do
surveys that collect geometries.

Regards

Neil

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Roxroy Bollers rkbollers@gmail.comwrote:

Hey Niel,
That is very impressive. I would appreciate the image of the amazon if
you have the time. Thanks for sharing.

R

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Neil Penman neilpenman@gmail.comwrote:

Yes. My test server is at http://thai. cloudtec.com.au

User: test
Pwd : test

There is an example survey on there using an area and also another
recording a path. I haven't tested using odkcollect for a while as I use a
variant of collect called fieldTask (available in market place).

Should work best with chrome. I can make an amazon image of the server
available if you are interested and the source code is available at Google
code project smap-suite.

Regards
On Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM, "Roxroy Bollers" rkbollers@gmail.com wrote:

Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to
show a demo.

On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman neilpenman@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do
need custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or
"geolinestring" to record a path. Within the sub form I include a location
question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes
the results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the
geometries can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" j.parsons@globalcanopy.org wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people
there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and
size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its
not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so
data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for
visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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See http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/AggregateAWSInstall for how
to set up your own AWS server.

Yaw and Nafundi have built a VM that you could host on AWS; the pre-built
VM could eliminate many of the configuration steps.

If you are working with the source code, please ask technical questions on
opendatakit-developers@ rather than opendatakit@

Our developer site is here: http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/

Be sure to read the CONFIGURE.txt in the ODK Aggregate repo. You will want
to look through the Wikis for other tips on setting up your development
environment.

Development is easiest using GAE desktop environment.

Once you have made your changes, to deploy to MySQL, I then usually run
Maven to do a build, then copy the MySQL war file, replace the settings jar
with the one appropriate for your deployment, re-construct the war, and
copy it to the Tomcat webapps directory. See
http://code.google.com/p/opendatakit/wiki/AggregateDeploymentConfigurationfor
info about the settings jar.

··· ------------- Note that we will be doing a 1.3.1 release shortly (waiting on final testing of an accelerated-background-publishing feature).

Development tip is the uiexperiment branch. default branch is unstable
around release times (i.e., now).
v1_x branches are stable always. Current release is at the tip of v1_3
(this will be updated once we release).

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:22 PM, mark@deblois.nl wrote:

Hi there,

Was wondering if the server side is also freely available (to be hosted on
Amazon). Am interested to be able to capture lines and polys. We have got
experience with ODK Collect and Aggregate

Thanks,
Mark
Nairobi, Kenya

On Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:24:37 UTC+3, OutSourceRox wrote:

That would be fantastic. I have windows mobile 6.1 hand helds I am using
for a project, but would like to introduce something lighter and more
simplistic....

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

No problem. This version is still in test, I'm planning on releasing
it on the 17 February. So I''ll create a public Amazon image around about
then if thats ok. I'll also try and create some documentation on how to do
surveys that collect geometries.

Regards

Neil

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Roxroy Bollers rkbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Niel,
That is very impressive. I would appreciate the image of the amazon if
you have the time. Thanks for sharing.

R

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. My test server is at http://thai. cloudtec.com.au

User: test

Pwd : test

There is an example survey on there using an area and also another
recording a path. I haven't tested using odkcollect for a while as I use a
variant of collect called fieldTask (available in market place).

Should work best with chrome. I can make an amazon image of the server
available if you are interested and the source code is available at Google
code project smap-suite.

Regards

On Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM, "Roxroy Bollers" rkbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to show
a demo.

On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do
need custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or "geolinestring"
to record a path. Within the sub form I include a location question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes the
results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the geometries
can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" j.pa...@globalcanopy.org wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people

there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and

size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its

not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so

data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for

visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

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Hi,

You can download the cover from the google code repository.
http://code.google.com/p/smap-suite/

This includes the code and an install script. The script assumes the
server is ubuntu.

It will work on aws.

Regards

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··· On Apr 11, 2013 5:24 AM, wrote:

Hi there,

Was wondering if the server side is also freely available (to be hosted on
Amazon). Am interested to be able to capture lines and polys. We have got
experience with ODK Collect and Aggregate

Thanks,
Mark
Nairobi, Kenya

On Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:24:37 UTC+3, OutSourceRox wrote:

That would be fantastic. I have windows mobile 6.1 hand helds I am using
for a project, but would like to introduce something lighter and more
simplistic....

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

No problem. This version is still in test, I'm planning on releasing
it on the 17 February. So I''ll create a public Amazon image around about
then if thats ok. I'll also try and create some documentation on how to do
surveys that collect geometries.

Regards

Neil

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Roxroy Bollers rkbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Niel,
That is very impressive. I would appreciate the image of the amazon if
you have the time. Thanks for sharing.

R

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. My test server is at http://thai. cloudtec.com.au

User: test

Pwd : test

There is an example survey on there using an area and also another
recording a path. I haven't tested using odkcollect for a while as I use a
variant of collect called fieldTask (available in market place).

Should work best with chrome. I can make an amazon image of the server
available if you are interested and the source code is available at Google
code project smap-suite.

Regards

On Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM, "Roxroy Bollers" rkbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to show
a demo.

On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do
need custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or "geolinestring"
to record a path. Within the sub form I include a location question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes the
results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the geometries
can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" j.pa...@globalcanopy.org wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people

there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it
based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where
they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and

size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called
"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then
you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and its

not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an
application within a collect form that can do this all together, so

data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can
be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the form
and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for

visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone
know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the future?

Jon

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I usually run a small instance but that will support many enumerators. It
should handle thousands of submissions per day although it would depend on
the size of the submissions. If you were including large videos then you
would have to assess on a case by case basis for example. An AWS small
instance costs 8 cents per hour. (may vary per region)

You will probably be fine with a micro instance that costs 2 cents per hour
though I haven't used one of those for a while.

By the way the current install script contains a mis-configuration which
will result in database connection errors under heavy load. (3 per second
+). You need to increase maxconnections in postgresql.conf to 200. You
will also need to increase the size of linux shared memory:

  1. sudo sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=67068800
  2. To make the change permanent add to /etc/sysctl.cfg
··· On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:11 AM, wrote:

Great thanks! How much would the instance cost to run monthly, assuming
fairly low (say 1 phone per day) data submissions?

cheers,
Mark

On Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:27:11 UTC+3, Neil Penman wrote:

Hi,

You can download the cover from the google code repository.

http://code.google.com/p/smap-suite/

This includes the code and an install script. The script assumes the
server is ubuntu.

It will work on aws.

Regards

Neil

On Apr 11, 2013 5:24 AM, ma...@deblois.nl wrote:

Hi there,

Was wondering if the server side is also freely available (to be hosted
on Amazon). Am interested to be able to capture lines and polys. We have
got experience with ODK Collect and Aggregate

Thanks,

Mark

Nairobi, Kenya

On Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:24:37 UTC+3, OutSourceRox wrote:

That would be fantastic. I have windows mobile 6.1 hand helds I am
using for a project, but would like to introduce something lighter and more
simplistic....

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

No problem. This version is still in test, I'm planning on releasing
it on the 17 February. So I''ll create a public Amazon image around about
then if thats ok. I'll also try and create some documentation on how to do
surveys that collect geometries.

Regards

Neil

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Roxroy Bollers rkbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Niel,

That is very impressive. I would appreciate the image of the amazon if
you have the time. Thanks for sharing.

R

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. My test server is at http://thai. cloudtec.com.au

User: test

Pwd : test

There is an example survey on there using an area and also another
recording a path. I haven't tested using odkcollect for a while as I use a
variant of collect called fieldTask (available in market place).

Should work best with chrome. I can make an amazon image of the server
available if you are interested and the source code is available at Google
code project smap-suite.

Regards

On Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM, "Roxroy Bollers" rkbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to
show a demo.

On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you do
need custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or
"geolinestring" to record a path. Within the sub form I include a location
question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes
the results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the
geometries can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" j.pa...@globalcanopy.org wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people

there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of it

based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up where

they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and

size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called

"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but then

you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and
its

not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an

application within a collect form that can do this all together, so

data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape can

be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the
form

and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for

visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone

know, or if not is it on the list of things to develop in the
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Jon

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yes thats correct. The polygon will then appear on a map and can be used to
aggregate other data if you wish.

··· On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, wrote:

Am I right in saying that using smap one can setup a form to collect say a
polygon and have it inserted into postgis right away?

On Friday, 12 April 2013 21:11:35 UTC+3, ma...@deblois.nl wrote:

Great thanks! How much would the instance cost to run monthly, assuming
fairly low (say 1 phone per day) data submissions?

cheers,

Mark

On Thursday, 11 April 2013 14:27:11 UTC+3, Neil Penman wrote:

Hi,

You can download the cover from the google code repository.

http://code.google.com/p/smap-suite/

This includes the code and an install script. The script assumes the
server is ubuntu.

It will work on aws.

Regards

Neil

On Apr 11, 2013 5:24 AM, ma...@deblois.nl wrote:

Hi there,

Was wondering if the server side is also freely available (to be
hosted on Amazon). Am interested to be able to capture lines and polys. We
have got experience with ODK Collect and Aggregate

Thanks,

Mark

Nairobi, Kenya

On Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:24:37 UTC+3, OutSourceRox wrote:

That would be fantastic. I have windows mobile 6.1 hand helds I am
using for a project, but would like to introduce something lighter and more
simplistic....

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

No problem. This version is still in test, I'm planning on
releasing it on the 17 February. So I''ll create a public Amazon image
around about then if thats ok. I'll also try and create some documentation
on how to do surveys that collect geometries.

Regards

Neil

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Roxroy Bollers rkbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Niel,

That is very impressive. I would appreciate the image of
the amazon if you have the time. Thanks for sharing.

R

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. My test server is at http://thai. cloudtec.com.au

User: test

Pwd : test

There is an example survey on there using an area and also another
recording a path. I haven't tested using odkcollect for a while as I use a
variant of collect called fieldTask (available in market place).

Should work best with chrome. I can make an amazon image of the
server available if you are interested and the source code is available at
Google code project smap-suite.

Regards

On Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM, "Roxroy Bollers" rkbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Niel that sounds doable. However do you by chance have a website to
show a demo.

On Friday, February 10, 2012, Neil Penman neilp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I think you can achieve this without changing odkCollect. But you
do need custom server code, or an update to aggregate.

I create a repeating group and call it "geopolygon" or
"geolinestring" to record a path. Within the sub form I include a location
question.

My server interprets these forms as composite questions and writes
the results to a postgis database as a geometry type. From there the
geometries can be analysed, exported as shape files or shown on a map.

Neil

On Feb 9, 2012 8:43 PM, "Jon Parsons" j.pa...@globalcanopy.org wrote:

Hi

I have just come back from Guyana where we are training 32 people

there to use ODK to record social and environmental data, most of
it

based on a point location - but a new requirement has come up
where

they are looking to record land use change in both its nature and

size.

We have be doing some initial work using a seperate app called

"distance and area measurment" which is doing what we want, but
then

you have to export the data and copy into a GIS system to use and
its

not possible for the user to add data about it.

So what I am wondering is if ODK has a component for linking to an

application within a collect form that can do this all together,
so

data on the land use can be entered in a form and then the shape
can

be drawn by the user by walking around the boundary and then the
form

and shape data can be saved and published to fusion togehter for

visualisation.

Someone mentioned to me this tool might exist already does anyone

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Jon

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