Running ODK on PC Tablets?

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Hello,

I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic question
about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK to design a
country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use tablets for data
collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than android.

In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first switch it
to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to simulate an
android operating system on these PC tablets? I'm told this works for most
apps, and so it seems like it would work for ODK - does it?

I'd be really grateful to hear thoughts or advice on this issue. (I'm
sorry - I'm waiting for IT at IFPRI to get back to me about the specific
make of the PC tablets, so I don't know this at the moment.)

Thanks very much,
Leah (Cornell PhD student in Applied Economics)

2

It is difficult to configure the emulator to use the PC's media capture
(e.g., barcode, camera, microphone) capabilities, and I do not know if GPS
or WiFi geo-location capture is possible.
If you expect to any of these things, you should test whether it is
feasible ASAP. Playing back audio, video or displaying images should not
be a problem.

The more complex the branching and relevance conditions in the form, the
slower the form will be when running under the emulator.

Depending upon the quantity of tablets you need, and the skill levels of
the survey takers, buying Android tablets may pay for itself in reduced
configuration and training costs, and reduced technical support during your
field study,

Mitch

··· On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM, leah bevis wrote:

Hello,

I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic question
about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK to design a
country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use tablets for data
collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than android.

In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first switch it
to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to simulate an
android operating system on these PC tablets? I'm told this works for most
apps, and so it seems like it would work for ODK - does it?

I'd be really grateful to hear thoughts or advice on this issue. (I'm
sorry - I'm waiting for IT at IFPRI to get back to me about the specific
make of the PC tablets, so I don't know this at the moment.)

Thanks very much,
Leah (Cornell PhD student in Applied Economics)

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Hi Mitch,

Thanks! I do not expect to use any of these capabilities - it's mostly
survey of questions. We would like to put in GPS data, but could also
download waypoints separately.

If I'm avoiding media capture capabilities, do you think that the emulator
would run ODK alright on PC tablets? (Again, sorry that I know know which
tablets specifically! Probably the answer depends in part on which
tablet.)

A fried of mine is concerned that the emulator will run ODK very slowly,
and/or that it will drain battery very fast. Given that this survey is
taking place in rural Uganda, and enumerators will only have access to
power in the evenings, fast battery drain would be a huge problem. Being
generally slow would also be a problem.

What do you think about those concerns? Any thoughts are appreciated!
Leah

··· On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:54:40 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote: > > It is difficult to configure the emulator to use the PC's media capture > (e.g., barcode, camera, microphone) capabilities, and I do not know if GPS > or WiFi geo-location capture is possible. > If you expect to any of these things, you should test whether it is > feasible ASAP. Playing back audio, video or displaying images should not > be a problem. > > The more complex the branching and relevance conditions in the form, the > slower the form will be when running under the emulator. > > Depending upon the quantity of tablets you need, and the skill levels of > the survey takers, buying Android tablets may pay for itself in reduced > configuration and training costs, and reduced technical support during your > field study, > > Mitch > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM, leah bevis <le...@cornell.edu wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic >> question about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK to >> design a country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use tablets >> for data collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than android. >> >> In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first switch >> it to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to simulate >> an android operating system on these PC tablets? I'm told this works for >> most apps, and so it seems like it would work for ODK - does it? >> >> I'd be really grateful to hear thoughts or advice on this issue. (I'm >> sorry - I'm waiting for IT at IFPRI to get back to me about the specific >> make of the PC tablets, so I don't know this at the moment.) >> >> Thanks very much, >> Leah (Cornell PhD student in Applied Economics) >> >> -- >> -- >> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ODK Community" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Mitch Sundt > Software Engineer > University of Washington > mitche...@gmail.com >
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Speed shouldn't be an issue -- the emulator seems to be fairly efficient
when you simply run an app.

I can't provide any more clarity. My best advice is to install everything
on your tablet and see how it performs.

Battery life will be dominated by the drain of the screen lighting and the
size of the battery.

Radio communications (WiFi and/or cellular) can also be a significant
drain. Consider running in Airport mode when in the field.

The running of the emulator and the screen navigations during the taking of
the survey will have negligible impact on your battery life.

Mitch

··· On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Leah Bevis wrote:

Hi Mitch,

Thanks! I do not expect to use any of these capabilities - it's mostly
survey of questions. We would like to put in GPS data, but could also
download waypoints separately.

If I'm avoiding media capture capabilities, do you think that the emulator
would run ODK alright on PC tablets? (Again, sorry that I know know which
tablets specifically! Probably the answer depends in part on which
tablet.)

A fried of mine is concerned that the emulator will run ODK very slowly,
and/or that it will drain battery very fast. Given that this survey is
taking place in rural Uganda, and enumerators will only have access to
power in the evenings, fast battery drain would be a huge problem. Being
generally slow would also be a problem.

What do you think about those concerns? Any thoughts are appreciated!
Leah

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:54:40 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote:

It is difficult to configure the emulator to use the PC's media capture
(e.g., barcode, camera, microphone) capabilities, and I do not know if GPS
or WiFi geo-location capture is possible.
If you expect to any of these things, you should test whether it is
feasible ASAP. Playing back audio, video or displaying images should not
be a problem.

The more complex the branching and relevance conditions in the form, the
slower the form will be when running under the emulator.

Depending upon the quantity of tablets you need, and the skill levels of
the survey takers, buying Android tablets may pay for itself in reduced
configuration and training costs, and reduced technical support during your
field study,

Mitch

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM, leah bevis le...@cornell.edu wrote:

Hello,

I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic
question about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK to
design a country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use tablets
for data collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than android.

In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first switch
it to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to simulate
an android operating system on these PC tablets? I'm told this works for
most apps, and so it seems like it would work for ODK - does it?

I'd be really grateful to hear thoughts or advice on this issue. (I'm
sorry - I'm waiting for IT at IFPRI to get back to me about the specific
make of the PC tablets, so I don't know this at the moment.)

Thanks very much,
Leah (Cornell PhD student in Applied Economics)

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Hey Leah,
If the tablets are not purchase d yet maybe you can try convencing the
funders to purchase android systems. Else you will run into a whole host of
problems.

··· Sent from my Samsung tablet. On Apr 3, 2013 1:05 PM, "Leah Bevis" wrote:

Hi Mitch,

Thanks! I do not expect to use any of these capabilities - it's mostly
survey of questions. We would like to put in GPS data, but could also
download waypoints separately.

If I'm avoiding media capture capabilities, do you think that the emulator
would run ODK alright on PC tablets? (Again, sorry that I know know which
tablets specifically! Probably the answer depends in part on which
tablet.)

A fried of mine is concerned that the emulator will run ODK very slowly,
and/or that it will drain battery very fast. Given that this survey is
taking place in rural Uganda, and enumerators will only have access to
power in the evenings, fast battery drain would be a huge problem. Being
generally slow would also be a problem.

What do you think about those concerns? Any thoughts are appreciated!
Leah

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:54:40 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote:

It is difficult to configure the emulator to use the PC's media capture
(e.g., barcode, camera, microphone) capabilities, and I do not know if GPS
or WiFi geo-location capture is possible.
If you expect to any of these things, you should test whether it is
feasible ASAP. Playing back audio, video or displaying images should not
be a problem.

The more complex the branching and relevance conditions in the form, the
slower the form will be when running under the emulator.

Depending upon the quantity of tablets you need, and the skill levels of
the survey takers, buying Android tablets may pay for itself in reduced
configuration and training costs, and reduced technical support during your
field study,

Mitch

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM, leah bevis le...@cornell.edu wrote:

Hello,

I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic
question about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK to
design a country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use tablets
for data collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than android.

In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first switch
it to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to simulate
an android operating system on these PC tablets? I'm told this works for
most apps, and so it seems like it would work for ODK - does it?

I'd be really grateful to hear thoughts or advice on this issue. (I'm
sorry - I'm waiting for IT at IFPRI to get back to me about the specific
make of the PC tablets, so I don't know this at the moment.)

Thanks very much,
Leah (Cornell PhD student in Applied Economics)

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Helo
I have a problem with my ODK application.
I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my phone
i cant find the form i have previously download.
Best regards

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Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback, this is very helpful.
I'll be trying to obtain a tablet for trial asap.

Best,
Leah

··· On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 5:37:06 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote: > > Speed shouldn't be an issue -- the emulator seems to be fairly efficient > when you simply run an app. > > I can't provide any more clarity. My best advice is to install everything > on your tablet and see how it performs. > > Battery life will be dominated by the drain of the screen lighting and the > size of the battery. > > Radio communications (WiFi and/or cellular) can also be a significant > drain. Consider running in Airport mode when in the field. > > The running of the emulator and the screen navigations during the taking > of the survey will have negligible impact on your battery life. > > Mitch > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Leah Bevis <leah....@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi Mitch, >> >> Thanks! I do not expect to use any of these capabilities - it's mostly >> survey of questions. We would like to put in GPS data, but could also >> download waypoints separately. >> >> If I'm avoiding media capture capabilities, do you think that the >> emulator would run ODK alright on PC tablets? (Again, sorry that I know >> know which tablets specifically! Probably the answer depends in part on >> which tablet.) >> >> A fried of mine is concerned that the emulator will run ODK very slowly, >> and/or that it will drain battery very fast. Given that this survey is >> taking place in rural Uganda, and enumerators will only have access to >> power in the evenings, fast battery drain would be a huge problem. Being >> generally slow would also be a problem. >> >> What do you think about those concerns? Any thoughts are appreciated! >> Leah >> >> >> On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:54:40 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote: >> >>> It is difficult to configure the emulator to use the PC's media capture >>> (e.g., barcode, camera, microphone) capabilities, and I do not know if GPS >>> or WiFi geo-location capture is possible. >>> If you expect to any of these things, you should test whether it is >>> feasible ASAP. Playing back audio, video or displaying images should not >>> be a problem. >>> >>> The more complex the branching and relevance conditions in the form, the >>> slower the form will be when running under the emulator. >>> >>> Depending upon the quantity of tablets you need, and the skill levels of >>> the survey takers, buying Android tablets may pay for itself in reduced >>> configuration and training costs, and reduced technical support during your >>> field study, >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM, leah bevis wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic >>>> question about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK to >>>> design a country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use tablets >>>> for data collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than android. >>>> >>>> In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first switch >>>> it to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to simulate >>>> an android operating system on these PC tablets? I'm told this works for >>>> most apps, and so it seems like it would work for ODK - does it? >>>> >>>> I'd be really grateful to hear thoughts or advice on this issue. (I'm >>>> sorry - I'm waiting for IT at IFPRI to get back to me about the specific >>>> make of the PC tablets, so I don't know this at the moment.) >>>> >>>> Thanks very much, >>>> Leah (Cornell PhD student in Applied Economics) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com >>>> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@**googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> Options: http://groups.google.com/**group/opendatakit?hl=en >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ODK Community" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to opendatakit...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mitch Sundt >>> Software Engineer >>> University of Washington >>> mitche...@gmail.com >>> >> -- >> -- >> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ODK Community" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > Mitch Sundt > Software Engineer > University of Washington > mitche...@gmail.com >
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Helo
I have a problem with my ODK application.
I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my
phone i cant find the form i have previously download.

This is the message a get if i try to find my form : FormName
javarosa.xform.parse.xformParseException:XML Syntax error at line: 1,
column 96.
But my form is work in other mobile phoe

··· > Best regards > >
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Leah,

You can also try enketo (http://enketo.org/), which is like ODK
Collect, but runs in the browser.

Yaw

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On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Roxroy Bollers rkbollers@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Leah,
If the tablets are not purchase d yet maybe you can try convencing the
funders to purchase android systems. Else you will run into a whole host of
problems.

Sent from my Samsung tablet.

On Apr 3, 2013 1:05 PM, "Leah Bevis" leah.bevis@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mitch,

Thanks! I do not expect to use any of these capabilities - it's mostly
survey of questions. We would like to put in GPS data, but could also
download waypoints separately.

If I'm avoiding media capture capabilities, do you think that the emulator
would run ODK alright on PC tablets? (Again, sorry that I know know which
tablets specifically! Probably the answer depends in part on which tablet.)

A fried of mine is concerned that the emulator will run ODK very slowly,
and/or that it will drain battery very fast. Given that this survey is
taking place in rural Uganda, and enumerators will only have access to power
in the evenings, fast battery drain would be a huge problem. Being
generally slow would also be a problem.

What do you think about those concerns? Any thoughts are appreciated!
Leah

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:54:40 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote:

It is difficult to configure the emulator to use the PC's media capture
(e.g., barcode, camera, microphone) capabilities, and I do not know if GPS
or WiFi geo-location capture is possible.
If you expect to any of these things, you should test whether it is
feasible ASAP. Playing back audio, video or displaying images should not be
a problem.

The more complex the branching and relevance conditions in the form, the
slower the form will be when running under the emulator.

Depending upon the quantity of tablets you need, and the skill levels of
the survey takers, buying Android tablets may pay for itself in reduced
configuration and training costs, and reduced technical support during your
field study,

Mitch

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM, leah bevis le...@cornell.edu wrote:

Hello,

I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic
question about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK to
design a country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use tablets
for data collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than android.

In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first switch
it to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to simulate
an android operating system on these PC tablets? I'm told this works for
most apps, and so it seems like it would work for ODK - does it?

I'd be really grateful to hear thoughts or advice on this issue. (I'm
sorry - I'm waiting for IT at IFPRI to get back to me about the specific
make of the PC tablets, so I don't know this at the moment.)

Thanks very much,
Leah (Cornell PhD student in Applied Economics)

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okay....you need to give some more information....you said you downloaded
"it in your phone" (it meaning the odk application?) and after restarting
you could not find "the form you previously downloaded" - can you still see
the odk collect application?

··· On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU wrote:

Helo
I have a problem with my ODK application.
I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my
phone i cant find the form i have previously download.
Best regards

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Just to be clear -- I have been assuming from your first e-mail that your
project has other tools that are forcing you to use Windows tablets.

ODK Collect runs great on Android tablets. While most of our documentation
features screen shots and videos of the use of ODK Collect on a cellphone,
many recent field deployments are using the tablet form factor.

··· On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Leah Bevis wrote:

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the feedback, this is very
helpful. I'll be trying to obtain a tablet for trial asap.

Best,
Leah

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 5:37:06 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote:

Speed shouldn't be an issue -- the emulator seems to be fairly efficient
when you simply run an app.

I can't provide any more clarity. My best advice is to install everything
on your tablet and see how it performs.

Battery life will be dominated by the drain of the screen lighting and
the size of the battery.

Radio communications (WiFi and/or cellular) can also be a significant
drain. Consider running in Airport mode when in the field.

The running of the emulator and the screen navigations during the taking
of the survey will have negligible impact on your battery life.

Mitch

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Leah Bevis leah....@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mitch,

Thanks! I do not expect to use any of these capabilities - it's mostly
survey of questions. We would like to put in GPS data, but could also
download waypoints separately.

If I'm avoiding media capture capabilities, do you think that the
emulator would run ODK alright on PC tablets? (Again, sorry that I know
know which tablets specifically! Probably the answer depends in part on
which tablet.)

A fried of mine is concerned that the emulator will run ODK very slowly,
and/or that it will drain battery very fast. Given that this survey is
taking place in rural Uganda, and enumerators will only have access to
power in the evenings, fast battery drain would be a huge problem. Being
generally slow would also be a problem.

What do you think about those concerns? Any thoughts are appreciated!
Leah

On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:54:40 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote:

It is difficult to configure the emulator to use the PC's media capture
(e.g., barcode, camera, microphone) capabilities, and I do not know if GPS
or WiFi geo-location capture is possible.
If you expect to any of these things, you should test whether it is
feasible ASAP. Playing back audio, video or displaying images should not
be a problem.

The more complex the branching and relevance conditions in the form,
the slower the form will be when running under the emulator.

Depending upon the quantity of tablets you need, and the skill levels
of the survey takers, buying Android tablets may pay for itself in reduced
configuration and training costs, and reduced technical support during your
field study,

Mitch

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM, leah bevis le...@cornell.edu wrote:

Hello,

I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic
question about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK to
design a country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use tablets
for data collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than android.

In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first
switch it to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to
simulate an android operating system on these PC tablets? I'm told this
works for most apps, and so it seems like it would work for ODK - does it?

I'd be really grateful to hear thoughts or advice on this issue. (I'm
sorry - I'm waiting for IT at IFPRI to get back to me about the specific
make of the PC tablets, so I don't know this at the moment.)

Thanks very much,
Leah (Cornell PhD student in Applied Economics)

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Hi Leah,

As Yaw mentioned, enketo may be a good fit for you, especially if you can
use a modern browser like Chrome (most used, so most tested). The forms
work offline as well, so extended periods without a connection should not
be a problem (unless the quantity of data you need to store before getting
a connection is huge). You can try e.g. this
form: http://wfl69.enketo.org/webform.

The enketo.org website is currently a bit rough (officially not yet
launched) but you should be able to launch your form (i.e. create a unique
URL) and test it to see if it meets your needs. If you're building your
forms with XLSForms, it would easiest to use formhub.org to host your form
manage data as enketo is integrated inside formhub.

Cheers,
Martijn

··· On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 4:45:43 PM UTC-6, Yaw Anokwa wrote: > > Leah, > > You can also try enketo (http://enketo.org/), which is like ODK > Collect, but runs in the browser. > > Yaw > -- > Need ODK help? Go to http://nafundi.com for custom development, form > design, implementation support, and user training for ODK. > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Roxroy Bollers <rkbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Leah, > > If the tablets are not purchase d yet maybe you can try convencing the > > funders to purchase android systems. Else you will run into a whole host > of > > problems. > > > > Sent from my Samsung tablet. > > > > On Apr 3, 2013 1:05 PM, "Leah Bevis" <leah....@gmail.com > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Mitch, > >> > >> Thanks! I do not expect to use any of these capabilities - it's mostly > >> survey of questions. We would like to put in GPS data, but could also > >> download waypoints separately. > >> > >> If I'm avoiding media capture capabilities, do you think that the > emulator > >> would run ODK alright on PC tablets? (Again, sorry that I know know > which > >> tablets specifically! Probably the answer depends in part on which > tablet.) > >> > >> A fried of mine is concerned that the emulator will run ODK very > slowly, > >> and/or that it will drain battery very fast. Given that this survey is > >> taking place in rural Uganda, and enumerators will only have access to > power > >> in the evenings, fast battery drain would be a huge problem. Being > >> generally slow would also be a problem. > >> > >> What do you think about those concerns? Any thoughts are appreciated! > >> Leah > >> > >> > >> On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 12:54:40 PM UTC-4, Mitch wrote: > >>> > >>> It is difficult to configure the emulator to use the PC's media > capture > >>> (e.g., barcode, camera, microphone) capabilities, and I do not know if > GPS > >>> or WiFi geo-location capture is possible. > >>> If you expect to any of these things, you should test whether it is > >>> feasible ASAP. Playing back audio, video or displaying images should > not be > >>> a problem. > >>> > >>> The more complex the branching and relevance conditions in the form, > the > >>> slower the form will be when running under the emulator. > >>> > >>> Depending upon the quantity of tablets you need, and the skill levels > of > >>> the survey takers, buying Android tablets may pay for itself in > reduced > >>> configuration and training costs, and reduced technical support during > your > >>> field study, > >>> > >>> Mitch > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:26 AM, leah bevis wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> I hope that it's acceptable to write this email list with a basic > >>>> question about using ODK on mobile devices. I am hoping to use ODK > to > >>>> design a country-wide, NSF-funded survey in Uganda. We wish to use > tablets > >>>> for data collection however, and the tablets are PC rather than > android. > >>>> > >>>> In order for me to run ODK on a PC tablet, would I have to first > switch > >>>> it to an android operating system? Or could I use Android SDK to > simulate > >>>> an android operating system on these PC tablets? 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Thank you
I cant see also the data recorded. After complete i have save it and not be
able to find it.
best

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Dear
I can see application, but a forms i have download and data i have collected
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··· Le jeudi 4 avril 2013 11:43:50 UTC, OutSourceRox a écrit : > > okay....you need to give some more information....you said you downloaded > "it in your phone" (it meaning the odk application?) and after restarting > you could not find "the form you previously downloaded" - can you still see > the odk collect application? > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU <maig...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Helo >> I have a problem with my ODK application. >> I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my >> phone i cant find the form i have previously download. >> Best regards >> >> -- >> -- >> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ODK Community" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > > > > > --- > "Like a camera I use the negative to develop..uDig" > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of > enthusiasm" > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > *Roxroy K. Bollers* > *OutSourceRox** > *Geographic Information Systems, IT Professional & Wed Developer > tel. 592.685.2737 > *.........................................................* > *Follow Us On* > *Facebook * > Google+ > *Web * > Twitter: @drbollers > ------------------------------------------- > Portfolio: > Tropical Timber > Adventure Guianas > Surama Eco-Lodge > Forest Connect Guyana > >
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I would try removing the ODK application from the phone - then restart
phone or tablet....re-install the odk application and make all the
necessary settings then try getting blank forms and see if that work.

··· On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU wrote:

Dear
I can see application, but a forms i have download and data i have
collected

Best

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okay....you need to give some more information....you said you downloaded
"it in your phone" (it meaning the odk application?) and after restarting
you could not find "the form you previously downloaded" - can you still see
the odk collect application?

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Helo
I have a problem with my ODK application.
I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my
phone i cant find the form i have previously download.
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I got this message when i try to open my download files : XML syntax Error
at line 1 Column 78

··· 2013/4/4 Roxroy Bollers

okay....you need to give some more information....you said you downloaded
"it in your phone" (it meaning the odk application?) and after restarting
you could not find "the form you previously downloaded" - can you still see
the odk collect application?

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Helo
I have a problem with my ODK application.
I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my
phone i cant find the form i have previously download.
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I have try this method but i have the same problem.
My adroid is LG E500
Thank

··· Le jeudi 4 avril 2013 13:30:40 UTC, OutSourceRox a écrit : > > I would try removing the ODK application from the phone - then restart > phone or tablet....re-install the odk application and make all the > necessary settings then try getting blank forms and see if that work. > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU <maig...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Dear >> I can see application, but a forms i have download and data i have >> collected >> >> Best >> >> Le jeudi 4 avril 2013 11:43:50 UTC, OutSourceRox a écrit : >> >>> okay....you need to give some more information....you said you >>> downloaded "it in your phone" (it meaning the odk application?) and after >>> restarting you could not find "the form you previously downloaded" - can >>> you still see the odk collect application? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU wrote: >>> >>>> Helo >>>> I have a problem with my ODK application. >>>> I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my >>>> phone i cant find the form i have previously download. >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com >>>> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@**googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> Options: http://groups.google.com/**group/opendatakit?hl=en >>>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "ODK Community" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to opendatakit...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> "Like a camera I use the negative to develop..uDig" >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss >>> of enthusiasm" >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ------------------------------**----------------> >>> *Roxroy K. Bollers* >>> *OutSourceRox** >>> *Geographic Information Systems, IT Professional & Wed Developer >>> tel. 592.685.2737 >>> *.........................................................* >>> *Follow Us On* >>> *Facebook * >>> Google+ >>> *Web * >>> Twitter: @drbollers >>> ------------------------------**------------- >>> Portfolio: >>> Tropical Timber >>> Adventure Guianas >>> Surama Eco-Lodge >>> Forest Connect Guyana >>> >>> -- >> -- >> Post: opend...@googlegroups.com >> Unsubscribe: opendatakit...@googlegroups.com >> Options: http://groups.google.com/group/opendatakit?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ODK Community" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to opendatakit...@googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > > > > > --- > "Like a camera I use the negative to develop..uDig" > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of > enthusiasm" > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > *Roxroy K. Bollers* > *OutSourceRox** > *Geographic Information Systems, IT Professional & Wed Developer > tel. 592.685.2737 > *.........................................................* > *Follow Us On* > *Facebook * > Google+ > *Web * > Twitter: @drbollers > ------------------------------------------- > Portfolio: > Tropical Timber > Adventure Guianas > Surama Eco-Lodge > Forest Connect Guyana > >
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The forms and data are stored on the external SDCard. Did you change that?

··· On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU wrote:

I have try this method but i have the same problem.
My adroid is LG E500
Thank

Le jeudi 4 avril 2013 13:30:40 UTC, OutSourceRox a écrit :

I would try removing the ODK application from the phone - then restart
phone or tablet....re-install the odk application and make all the
necessary settings then try getting blank forms and see if that work.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU maig...@gmail.comwrote:

Dear
I can see application, but a forms i have download and data i have
collected

Best

Le jeudi 4 avril 2013 11:43:50 UTC, OutSourceRox a écrit :

okay....you need to give some more information....you said you
downloaded "it in your phone" (it meaning the odk application?) and after
restarting you could not find "the form you previously downloaded" - can
you still see the odk collect application?

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU maig...@gmail.comwrote:

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I have a problem with my ODK application.
I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my
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I have reinitialize the phone I have the same problem. This is a message i
get : XML syntax error at line 1 column 78.
Thank

··· 2013/4/4 Roxroy Bollers

I would try removing the ODK application from the phone - then restart
phone or tablet....re-install the odk application and make all the
necessary settings then try getting blank forms and see if that work.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU maigamaha@gmail.comwrote:

Dear
I can see application, but a forms i have download and data i have
collected

Best

Le jeudi 4 avril 2013 11:43:50 UTC, OutSourceRox a écrit :

okay....you need to give some more information....you said you
downloaded "it in your phone" (it meaning the odk application?) and after
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you still see the odk collect application?

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Helo
I have a problem with my ODK application.
I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my
phone i cant find the form i have previously download.
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I have changer SDCard but i have the same problem

··· 2013/4/4 Mitch Sundt

The forms and data are stored on the external SDCard. Did you change that?

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU maigamaha@gmail.comwrote:

I have try this method but i have the same problem.
My adroid is LG E500
Thank

Le jeudi 4 avril 2013 13:30:40 UTC, OutSourceRox a écrit :

I would try removing the ODK application from the phone - then restart
phone or tablet....re-install the odk application and make all the
necessary settings then try getting blank forms and see if that work.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU maig...@gmail.comwrote:

Dear
I can see application, but a forms i have download and data i have
collected

Best

Le jeudi 4 avril 2013 11:43:50 UTC, OutSourceRox a écrit :

okay....you need to give some more information....you said you
downloaded "it in your phone" (it meaning the odk application?) and after
restarting you could not find "the form you previously downloaded" - can
you still see the odk collect application?

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Mahamane M'BARAKOU maig...@gmail.comwrote:

Helo
I have a problem with my ODK application.
I have download it in my phone (android LG 500) and when i restart my
phone i cant find the form i have previously download.
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